Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

[Jafar]

 

[Glinda]

You finally got to become a Genie!!! Im so proud of your growth and perseverance towards that goal.

 

[Jafar]

I got a lamp you can rub

 

[Gargamel]

Vote: Paul Heyman

 

[Glinda]

Time to decipher the writeup

Mazer character was recruitable and picked a side.

Rock activated a weapon. This a kill?
Caito protected TFB, I think.
LDG did something. Put an X through so a section??
Shiro made Paul unable to talk
Marack looking through Garmgamel's pack, could be an investigate.
Insaner listening devices. Can he check into other chats?

 

[VoidKitten]

Mod Note:

The genie has successfully argued that genies should be able to grant more than one wish. I will not let Jafar grant three, but he may now grant two wishes. One public and one private.

 

[Dude Love]

Relatively quiet night. Not sure much info will come out.

These wishes will be interesting, though.

 

[Glinda]

Look at you @Jafar getting closer to full genie potential!

 

[VoidKitten]

Second Mod Note:

Wishes need to contain a target to be valid. "Give me" is not a valid wish in public or private.

 

[Jade Cargill]

Vote: Paul Heyman

Why? The writeup suggests he couldn't have done anything last night.

 

[Dude Love]

Time to decipher the writeup

Mazer character was recruitable and picked a side.

Rock activated a weapon. This a kill?
Caito protected TFB, I think.
LDG did something. Put an X through so a section??
Shiro made Paul unable to talk
Marack looking through Garmgamel's pack, could be an investigate.
Insaner listening devices. Can he check into other chats?

Considering everyone is still alive, I don't think the weapon Rock used was for a kill, unless it's delayed like a poison or something. The way it 'chilled' people made me think some kind of mass roleblock, though obviously some actions went through. Could have been a percentage roleblock or something.

I read the action on Caito as a jail.

We'll have to see if Paul is able to post during this day phase or if his vocabulary is limited in some way, otherwise I think this might just be a standard roleblock.

 

[Jade Cargill]

EBWOP I misread, I saw his throat got chopped and thought he was incapacitated, didn't see the part only mentioning he couldn't speak, though it seems odd you want to vote a man who can't speak for himself today.

 

[Dude Love]

Why? The writeup suggests he couldn't have done anything last night.

If he was roleblocked, and there was no scum kill, it could point to him being the scum who was supposed to do the kill.

 

[Cactus Jack]

If he was roleblocked, and there was no scum kill, it could point to him being the scum who was supposed to do the kill.

IT LOOKS LIKE MY MANAGER HAS BEEN SILENCED!

Now, gimmicking over, I’m done with it.

I’m curious how the wishes go. I hope the inactive people from last day phase speak up more this phase

 

[Glinda]

Jafar, where is your mind with granting wishes? Do you want to see offensive abilities like extra kills? Do you want to see people go for protections? Do you want to see creative things?

 

[Jafar]

Oh i dont care throw some spice in the game

 

[Jafar]

Make the mods life hell ect

 

[Jade Cargill]

I wish for Voidkitten to confess his greatest fear.

 

[Glinda]

I wish for Voidkitten to confess his greatest fear.

Bold move cotton. I hope it works out for you.

 

[Sirius Black]

Jafar becoming the wish granted is so funny. Good job tribal council. Should be a good way to learn Jafar's alignment today.

 

[Sirius Black]

Thank you for your vote of confidence.

What I find sus, if your signature takes up more space then content you've provided to these fine wizards and wrestlers.

You seem displeased with how things are going. How would you like to see this change?

You realize top 2 vote getters get immunity for 3 and 1 day?

Im curious as to what you found sus.

So asking you to explain yourself or your read is sus?

You finally got to become a Genie!!! Im so proud of your growth and perseverance towards that goal.

Look at you @Jafar getting closer to full genie potential!

Jafar, where is your mind with granting wishes? Do you want to see offensive abilities like extra kills? Do you want to see people go for protections? Do you want to see creative things?

I'm pretty sus of Glinda going from kinda grilling Jafar on d1 to buttering him up today. That latter post looks more like trying to figure out how to get a wish granted by Jafar than questioning him. I would expect a townie to make some kind of remark about being curious of Jafar's alignment, given Glinda's posts to Jafar on D1.

I read Glinda's ISO after seeing that they got first place and was somewhat confused because I don't really think they have been all that towny yesterday.

 

[Jafar]

Jafar becoming the wish granted is so funny. Good job tribal council. Should be a good way to learn Jafar's alignment today.

Or i learn your shitty align from your shitty wishes

 

[Sirius Black]

My immediate idea is to post "I wish Palpatine to die" but not gonna put it in bold just yet

 

[Jafar]

 

[Sirius Black]

Or i learn your shitty align from your shitty wishes

Good post

 

[Sirius Black]

"Public alignment reveal" is also a valid although more boring option

 

[Glinda]

I'm pretty sus of Glinda going from kinda grilling Jafar on d1 to buttering him up today. That latter post looks more like trying to figure out how to get a wish granted by Jafar than questioning him. I would expect a townie to make some kind of remark about being curious of Jafar's alignment, given Glinda's posts to Jafar on D1.

I read Glinda's ISO after seeing that they got first place and was somewhat confused because I don't really think they have been all that towny yesterday.

So my opinion of someone isnt allowed to change from start of game?

 

[Glinda]

How did you feel about TFB being in the top 3? Did you ISO them to see how little they did/said and were still in the running for immunity?

 

[Cactus Jack]

How did you feel about TFB being in the top 3? Did you ISO them to see how little they did/said and were still in the running for immunity?

I agree that the push for him towards the end was…off

It looked like a scum team was trying to save one of their own from elimination

 

[Sirius Black]

So my opinion of someone isnt allowed to change from start of game?

Did your opinion change? Why? Can you talk more about what it was and what it is now? It just seems like a weird shift in tone because fmpov Jafar hasn't really done anything themselves to warrant that change.

How did you feel about TFB being in the top 3? Did you ISO them to see how little they did/said and were still in the running for immunity?

Can someone do little and still be town? TFB alluded to having a good role. I assume the people that voted him believed him and thought he was worthy of protection. Seems like a pretty basic observation to me, and you ignoring this possibility is making it look like a bad faith argument.

 

[Sirius Black]

Now I can't let a fellow witch be 3rd?

Vote: Glinda

Glinda, how do you feel about me pointing out this post from Palpatine?

 

[Glinda]

Did your opinion change? Why? Can you talk more about what it was and what it is now? It just seems like a weird shift in tone because fmpov Jafar hasn't really done anything themselves to warrant that change.

Can someone do little and still be town? TFB alluded to having a good role. I assume the people that voted him believed him and thought he was worthy of protection. Seems like a pretty basic observation to me, and you ignoring this possibility is making it look like a bad faith argument.

My initial opinion was based on just saying sus and voting me... Initially I thought it was lazy. But looking at how much less other people had done, figured it was more harsh then it should have been.

Now I find it 100% amusing that Jafar wanted to be a genie and wished for it, and got it at the end of Aladin. Our Tribal Council has given him that opportunity. Its just something I find fun and some joy in. Give him the time to shine and adjust the read based on what gets granted.

To move onto TFB, to say "I have a role," in a role madness game. Wow. Mind Blown. Guess what, I also have a role that will help town. Its hard to take anyone at face value when they just claim to have a role. How would you have felt if everyone said on D1 that they have a role worth keeping around?

Glinda, how do you feel about me pointing out this post from Palpatine?

I would have to look back at the timing of the vote. Did it move me out of 3rd? If so, I appreciate someone liking me enough to keep me from being the potential lynch target.

 

[Glinda]

I like them more for having an avatar that matches the name.

Unlike you. Are you Hagrid or Sirius?

 

[Sirius Black]

My initial opinion was based on just saying sus and voting me... Initially I thought it was lazy. But looking at how much less other people had done, figured it was more harsh then it should have been.

Now I find it 100% amusing that Jafar wanted to be a genie and wished for it, and got it at the end of Aladin. Our Tribal Council has given him that opportunity. Its just something I find fun and some joy in. Give him the time to shine and adjust the read based on what gets granted.

I think that's fair.

To move onto TFB, to say "I have a role," in a role madness game. Wow. Mind Blown. Guess what, I also have a role that will help town. Its hard to take anyone at face value when they just claim to have a role. How would you have felt if everyone said on D1 that they have a role worth keeping around?

I was just pointing that out and saying that it's not impossible that some townie saw that post and took it at face value.

Who do you think are the mafia who were propping up the TFB train yesterday?

I would have to look back at the timing of the vote. Did it move me out of 3rd? If so, I appreciate someone liking me enough to keep me from being the potential lynch target.

That's also fair, but it's also a boring answer. Not exactly what I'm looking for to find you as town.

 

[Sirius Black]

I like them more for having an avatar that matches the name.

Unlike you. Are you Hagrid or Sirius?

I am Harry's uncle!

 

[Sirius Black]

I wish for Palpatine's alignment to be revealed in thus thread

Guess I'll just leave this here

 

[Cactus Jack]

I am Harry's uncle!

Sirius Black is the godfather of Harry, not the uncle.

 

[Rhea Ripley]

I have some real life activity that will make it hard if not impossible for me to be around until Monday. Maybe I will be able to pop in for a couple min late at night, but since day ends at 8PM, I want to get my vote in. I think Void warned us about not voting, and there may be consequences for not voting going forward.
The writeup also mentioned that there are two people already in Tribal Council - which makes me wonder what is going on there? Did Void manage to get subs lined up in case they are needed? Everyone should try to get a vote in today.

We can't vote for Glinda nor Cactus Jack.

I would have thought there'd be more details to the write up with so many people playing. Good news is that we didn't lose anyone yet. I get that we can't break any rules about claiming, but it doesn't look like we have any deets to go on either. So this is a rajah style game, and this seems like D1 where we don't know anything, but with the anonymity now in place, it is even harder to read anyone. I am going to Vote: VOTE SLEEP so we don't lose anyone as scum has the advantage here.

I have no idea what the puzzle/clue void left about
"Coined a well phrased term"

As for the wishes, I don't have a preference as I suck at these - but our wish granter wants it spicy, and I'd like it to be something we can learn from.

So, I wish for a random wrestler be given a gun to be used before end of day 3 on a wizard, and similarly for a random wizard to be given a gun that can only be used on a wrestler before end of day 3 - and if one of these guns is not used, the recipient is sent to Tribal Council. I am excluding Mazer as I think he is neither a wizard nor a wrestler, plus it seems he got recruited by the reds. Not sure if the mod would approve this, but it seems like on its face it would not negatively affect balance

If the wish is granted, this might be a way to see wrestlers' opinions of wizards, and versa-visa.

I would appreciate thoughts/discussion. But as I came up with this, I think it could certainly be spicy.

 

[The Tribal Chief]

3p usually Win with Town right? Or are they as bad as Scum?

 

[Glinda]

3p usually Win with Town right? Or are they as bad as Scum?

Depends on the roles. SK typically need to make it to the end to win. Survivors can win by just living. Really comes down to what Void has done with 3p that may exist in the game.

 

[Dude Love]

Glinda, how do you feel about me pointing out this post from Palpatine?

Why is 'pointing out this post' worth considering at all? The fact they refer to Glinda as a 'fellow witch?'

 

[Palpatine]

All this dislike of me and I’ve done nothing wrong!

Just ignore the Death Star that has begun construction.

 

[Mick Foley]

i wish for a popcorn gun to enter the game

 

[Mick Foley]

also i think that putting The Final Boss into the running made scum panic and show their true colours so this game will be easy now

Vote: Palpatine

 

[Mick Foley]

i am trusting hagrid a lot, he writes good posts. i have not read his posts but they are good

 

[Mick Foley]

How did you feel about TFB being in the top 3? Did you ISO them to see how little they did/said and were still in the running for immunity?

why would you think that scum would suddenly play their hand in trying to make a most uncharismatic player their representative in the running for immunity? especially when there are people that held onto their votes and were able to stop this silent hero from moving to the top 2

 

[Mick Foley]

I agree that the push for him towards the end was…off

It looked like a scum team was trying to save one of their own from elimination

if there was a scum in third place they would just give there votes to that scum and give him a top 2 position

 

[Mick Foley]

if there was a scum in third place they would just give there votes to that scum and give him a top 2 position

i looked at vcs and it would be seth rollins that was in 3rd place and he did put himself there by giving himself a second vote. why did he put himself into 3rd place if he is a wolf and why didnt his wolf friends just give him more votes?

 

[Palpatine]

also i think that putting The Final Boss into the running made scum panic and show their true colours so this game will be easy now

Vote: Palpatine

Good remember a vote for the emperor is a vote for life!

 

[Mick Foley]

Good remember a vote for the emperor is a vote for life!

isnt it a vote for death?

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 2 Vote Count:

Sleep - 1 (Rhea #438)
Palpatine - 1 (Mick Foley #444)

Not Voting: Cactus Jack, Cody Rhodes, Dr Strange, Dude Love, Gargamel, Glinda, Harry Dresden, Harry Potter, Jade Cargill, Jafar, Mankind, Merlin, Palpatine, Pug, Sabrina Spellman, Seth Rollins, Sirius Black, The Final Boss, The Tribal Chief

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end at 8:00pm ET (GMT-4) on Apr 7th or when majority is reached. If majority is not reached by the end of the day, the player with the most votes will be eliminated. With 21 players alive, the majority is 11 votes on a single player.

 

[Palpatine]

isnt it a vote for death?

Emperor Palpatine has no fear of death. I will always come back and I also have my apprentice. Again just ignore the Death Star that has begun construction in the distance.

 

[Mick Foley]

Emperor Palpatine has no fear of death. I will always come back and I also have my apprentice. Again just ignore the Death Star that has begun construction in the distance.

oh no now i am worried that if i vote you and you die they will make another really bad trilogy

 

[Jafar]

Need more wishes i demand moooore

 

[Seth Rollins]

Vote: Sleep

 

[Mankind]

I have some real life activity that will make it hard if not impossible for me to be around until Monday. Maybe I will be able to pop in for a couple min late at night, but since day ends at 8PM, I want to get my vote in. I think Void warned us about not voting, and there may be consequences for not voting going forward.
The writeup also mentioned that there are two people already in Tribal Council - which makes me wonder what is going on there? Did Void manage to get subs lined up in case they are needed? Everyone should try to get a vote in today.

We can't vote for Glinda nor Cactus Jack.

I would have thought there'd be more details to the write up with so many people playing. Good news is that we didn't lose anyone yet. I get that we can't break any rules about claiming, but it doesn't look like we have any deets to go on either. So this is a rajah style game, and this seems like D1 where we don't know anything, but with the anonymity now in place, it is even harder to read anyone. I am going to Vote: VOTE SLEEP so we don't lose anyone as scum has the advantage here.

I have no idea what the puzzle/clue void left about
"Coined a well phrased term"

As for the wishes, I don't have a preference as I suck at these - but our wish granter wants it spicy, and I'd like it to be something we can learn from.

So, I wish for a random wrestler be given a gun to be used before end of day 3 on a wizard, and similarly for a random wizard to be given a gun that can only be used on a wrestler before end of day 3 - and if one of these guns is not used, the recipient is sent to Tribal Council. I am excluding Mazer as I think he is neither a wizard nor a wrestler, plus it seems he got recruited by the reds. Not sure if the mod would approve this, but it seems like on its face it would not negatively affect balance

If the wish is granted, this might be a way to see wrestlers' opinions of wizards, and versa-visa.

I would appreciate thoughts/discussion. But as I came up with this, I think it could certainly be spicy.

Says you need to start the post with the "I wish" in bold, not in the middle. I don't know how much a stickler for the stated rules this mechanic will be, though.

 

[The Tribal Chief]

Vote: Sleep
I wish for a random person to get a gun

 

[Mankind]

Emperor Palpatine has no fear of death. I will always come back and I also have my apprentice. Again just ignore the Death Star that has begun construction in the distance.

Huh...and here I thought it was fully operational.

 

[Mankind]

Okay, does the immunity granted day 1 prevent people from being the target of wishes, too?

 

[Mankind]

Vote: Sleep
I wish for a random person to get a gun

Once again, post must start with "I wish", and it must have a target to be considered valid.

 

[Seth Rollins]

I wish for any player who targets Seth Rollins at night to be forced to post cat gifs the following day phase.

 

[Mick Foley]

i wish for any member of the town alignment to be given a popcorn gun with 1-3 shots

 

[Jafar]

Z,

i wish for any member of the town alignment to be given a popcorn gun with 1-3 shots

Bold

 

[Mankind]

I wish for Mick Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack, and Dude Love to get pets which grant one off abilities. Mick Foley gets a dog which allows a one time use of tracking (because they sniff good), Mankind gets a cat which allows for a one off use of Watcher (because they see good in the dark), Cactus Jack to get a pet snake which poisons somebody who tries to kill him once (cause they poisonous and bitey), and Dude Love gets a panda which role blocks somebody once (cause bear hugs of love)

This probably won't fly because too many targets or something, but I think the Foley bunch needs pets to help us reduce our loneliness and get rid of the need to create multiple personas just so we can pretend we're not alone.

 

[Jafar]

You didnt bold

 

[Jafar]

Yall dont think outside the box

 

[Jafar]

Its just gimme gimme gimme

 

[Mankind]

Come on, mine is for a good cause! It's to help those with multiple personality disorder, and it's adopting pets that otherwise would be subject to euthanasia!

 

[Mankind]

Honestly, I only did that wish because I thought it was funny to give pets to the 4 Mick Foleys, I probably shouldn't have wasted it on that. The one off abilities were an afterthought.

 

[Jafar]

Come on, mine is for a good cause! It's to help those with multiple personality disorder, and it's adopting pets that otherwise would be subject to euthanasia!

Wouldnt it make more sense to just combine them all into one personilty of Michael Francis Foley? Why feed the multiple petsonality disorder

 

[Mankind]

Wouldnt it make more sense to just combine them all into one personilty of Michael Francis Foley? Why feed the multiple petsonality disorder

Because I want a cat, is that so wrong?

 

[Jafar]

You lack the little grey cells

 

[Mankind]

You lack the little grey cells

Poirot, is that you?

 

[Sabrina Spellman]

Okay Lets see what is going on in the write up. Sorry if I repeat anything anyone has said. Only skimmed stuff so far.

Hmmm not a lot of actions. Maybe Rock's action was some kind of roleblock but just not everyone. Well that is frustrating to start out the game with little info but typically scum tactics around here.

Mazer picked a side but don't know which side yet.

Caito jailed Final Boss I think.

Not sure what LDG did.

Looks like Heyman was silenced.

Marack did some kind of cop action I think on Gargamel. Seems like I have seen similar writeups before but forgetting what exactly what the action was.

Insaner might be able to eavesdrop on something maybe. Not sure exactly what is going on there.

Wishes. l like wishes. Guess I need to start thinking about what to wish for.

Guess there was not a death

Okay now to see what people have been saying and talking about.

 

[Sabrina Spellman]

I got a lamp you can rub

 

[Sabrina Spellman]

Oh i dont care throw some spice in the game

I like how you are thinking.

 

[Mick Foley]

i wish for any member of the town alignment to be given a popcorn gun with 1-3 shots

 

[Sabrina Spellman]

3p usually Win with Town right? Or are they as bad as Scum?

Depends on their wincon. Sometimes they are neutral and can win with either if they just make it to the end. I think a lot of people argue that they tend to be more aligned with scum no matter their wincon.

 

[Sabrina Spellman]

What is with the sleep votes? I don't like any of them at all.

Okay. Time to go think of wishes.

 

[Jafar]

Depends on their wincon. Sometimes they are neutral and can win with either if they just make it to the end. I think a lot of people argue that they tend to be more aligned with scum no matter their wincon.

It sounded like they got to pick thier wincon siding we should not trust ether way

 

[Sirius Black]

Yall dont think outside the box

Reminder that a wish has to include a target to be valid. I think that makes the options we have pretty limited here.

I think the best thing to do is to just use it to resolve a slot in some way. Investigation/kill/giving that player a suicide bomb/desperado shot are some of the ways we could do that.

It's actually a really powerful thing to do to resolve two slots with this. We get to investigate two people if we want y'all, that is so crazy.

 

[Sirius Black]

What is with the sleep votes? I don't like any of them at all.

Okay. Time to go think of wishes.

Just pick a person you find sus and wish for something terrible to happen to them imo

 

[Sirius Black]

Unless Jafar doesn't want town to win of course

 

[Sirius Black]

It will also give us something to read into based on who wished for what

 

[Palpatine]

Reminder that a wish has to include a target to be valid. I think that makes the options we have pretty limited here.

I think the best thing to do is to just use it to resolve a slot in some way. Investigation/kill/giving that player a suicide bomb/desperado shot are some of the ways we could do that.

It's actually a really powerful thing to do to resolve two slots with this. We get to investigate two people if we want y'all, that is so crazy.

Those are boring wishes. Where’s the pizzazz? The drama?

 

[Sirius Black]

I disagree I think killing people is very exciting

 

[Jafar]

Unless Jafar doesn't want town to win of course

Im on the fence of if i care or not with all these boring wishes

 

[Jafar]

Feel like im missing alot of wishes

 

[Jafar]

Just a reminder submit 1 public and one private

 

[Jade Cargill]

Vote: Gargamel

 

[Palpatine]

I wish Palpatine’s Death Star would be fully built and ready to fire immediately

 

[Sirius Black]

Im on the fence of if i care or not with all these boring wishes

That's... Not very reassuring lol

 

[Sirius Black]

I wish Palpatine’s Death Star would be fully built and ready to fire immediately

Just purge slots such as this that aren't even pretending to play

 

[Glinda]

I wish for Mick Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack, and Dude Love to get pets which grant one off abilities. Mick Foley gets a dog which allows a one time use of tracking (because they sniff good), Mankind gets a cat which allows for a one off use of Watcher (because they see good in the dark), Cactus Jack to get a pet snake which poisons somebody who tries to kill him once (cause they poisonous and bitey), and Dude Love gets a panda which role blocks somebody once (cause bear hugs of love)

This probably won't fly because too many targets or something, but I think the Foley bunch needs pets to help us reduce our loneliness and get rid of the need to create multiple personas just so we can pretend we're not alone.

Someone doesnt know snakes. Snakes font poison people.

 

[Mankind]

Someone doesnt know snakes. Snakes font poison people.

Jokes on you! I do know, I just purposely chose to say it wrong!

 

[Jafar]

 

[Palpatine]

Just purge slots such as this that aren't even pretending to play

Sounds like sequels for me then!

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 2 Vote Count:

Sleep - 2 (Rhea #438, Seth Rollins #455)
Palpatine - 1 (Mick Foley #444)
Gargamel - 1 (Jade Cargill #490

Not Voting: Cactus Jack, Cody Rhodes, Dr Strange, Dude Love, Gargamel, Glinda, Harry Dresden, Harry Potter, Jafar, Mankind, Merlin, Palpatine, Pug, Sabrina Spellman, Sirius Black, The Final Boss, The Tribal Chief

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end at 8:00pm ET (GMT-4) on Apr 7th or when majority is reached. If majority is not reached by the end of the day, the player with the most votes will be eliminated. With 21 players alive, the majority is 11 votes on a single player.

 

[Gargamel]

It appears my vote has been hijacked.

There's no way I'm gonna attract the hotties like this.

 

[Gargamel]

Unless Paul Heyman is unvotable

Vote: Sleep