Mafia 23 - The Town of Rings

[Apocaclaws]

Perhaps grumpy cat instead

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Not sure I'll be around much tonight and I have a lot of catch-up to do, but I'm back from camping and will be around more tomorrow

 

[Apocaclaws]

Not sure I'll be around much tonight and I have a lot of catch-up to do, but I'm back from camping and will be around more tomorrow

OK

 

[MitchRapp]

Not sure I'll be around much tonight and I have a lot of catch-up to do, but I'm back from camping and will be around more tomorrow

I like when people check in and let us know.

 

[Apocaclaws]

I like when people check in and let us know.

Be pretty convient if hes pb and just saying who hes infecting tho and then the i dont need to be in thread excuses but ill let it slide for meow

 

[Apocaclaws]

But eh who else maybe matt i suppose however you and psycho didnt die to doom

 

[Apocaclaws]

If dooms here

 

[Apocaclaws]

 

[Matthieu]

I want to read more thoughts and theories from the quieter posters today.

 

[Caito]

This may have taken me way too long and shows how little I read where I didn’t realize this was a LOTR game……


Hands up, that one is on me.

 

[Matthieu]

I suspect there are various third party players, potentially hostile ones, given the colours in the write up.

 

[MitchRapp]

So are we gonna vote Matthieu now or fuck around for 47 hours and then vote Matthieu?

 

[Matthieu]

You'd be making a mistake in either case.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I have crossed Claws off my list at this time.

At least 1 or 2 that we need to get rid of off this list of 6: The lettuce voters plus BN and Psycho

Lettuce - 5 (CWE #513, Grumpy #519, Matthieu #672, Caito #733, Val #768)
Not Voting: Blind Ninja, Psycho

Matthieu continues to be at the top of my list. The evidence continues to pile up against him. I also have kept BN on my suspicion list because he hasn't felt as solvy as he has in other games. Also not voting anywhere.

Im sorry man. My vote would have fallen on my D1 target.

I was ill yesterday and in bed for 20+ hrs. Thankfully I'd gotten my posts in on the early part of the day.

Also not sure how you see me as solvy. I ask people questions and when I have comments/concerns, I bring them up. I dont solve like Mazer, Foxxi, VK and Psycho. Thats not my style.

In any event... Im not a bad guy this time around. I can corroborate some peoples actions on n1/n2 if needed.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I like when people check in and let us know.

You gonna call him scum like you called Matt scum for a post just like this?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Since Val flipped red (Soul Collector), Id assume any other Apoc would flip red... means purple is either coven or hostile 3p

 

[MitchRapp]

You gonna call him scum like you called Matt scum for a post just like this?

Do I need to lay the irony on thicker for you?

 

[MitchRapp]

Im sorry man. My vote would have fallen on my D1 target.

I was ill yesterday and in bed for 20+ hrs. Thankfully I'd gotten my posts in on the early part of the day.

Also not sure how you see me as solvy. I ask people questions and when I have comments/concerns, I bring them up. I dont solve like Mazer, Foxxi, VK and Psycho. Thats not my style.

In any event... Im not a bad guy this time around. I can corroborate some peoples actions on n1/n2 if needed.

I find you solvy in that way. Asking questions and getting peoples reactions is similar to how I play this game.

I hope you are feeling better.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I find you solvy in that way. Asking questions and getting peoples reactions is similar to how I play this game.

I hope you are feeling better.

I was asking those questions d1 and up til I was in bed d2... so not sure how I wasnt solvy to you. But thats neither here nor there.

Feeling a little better. Hoping to get a "normal" nights sleep tonight, but insomnia and sleep apnea fuck with me a lot

 

[llettuce]

Mmhm i could see it lettuce perhaps shes very agreeable it puts me off

Im always agreeable!

 

[CWE]

Claws is infected and I probably am too by this point

Vote: Matthieu

You became infected when you targeted the PB night 1.

 

[CWE]

But eh who else maybe matt i suppose however you and psycho didnt die to doom

Doom needs 3.

 

[CWE]

No, though I can confirm that we have a Socialite who targeted me last night.

Not many town roles get this kind of info. Evils on the other hand...

 

[llettuce]

Not many town roles get this kind of info. Evils on the other hand...

Oh i assumed that this was something that you would learn if a socialite visited you

Does not go well with cleric claim

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Vote: Matthieu

You became infected when you targeted the PB night 1.

Bet

Vote: Matthieu

So we have to kill Claws or me next for town to win, right?

 

[CWE]

Unless a cleric gets blocked by a socialite blocking then n1?

Bet

Vote: Matthieu

So we have to kill Claws or me next for town to win, right?

No. It doesn't matter if everyone is infected if we remove pb.

 

[Apocaclaws]

Vote: grae

 

[Apocaclaws]

Unvote:
Vote: matt

 

[Apocaclaws]

Just easier for vk to see

 

[llettuce]

Vote: matt

 

[MitchRapp]

I would like to hear from those that were on the Val lynch that havent chimed in much yet. @MTR @Listo95

 

[MitchRapp]

4 of you pilling on now? Where were you Day 1 and 2?

 

[Apocaclaws]

4 of you pilling on now? Where were you Day 1 and 2?

Dont be a sissy

 

[Apocaclaws]

Lets gooo

 

[Listo95]

I would like to hear from those that were on the Val lynch that havent chimed in much yet. @MTR @Listo95

In what manner?

 

[llettuce]

In what manner?

whatcha thinkin? how ya feeling about the game? anyone you like or dont like?

 

[Apocaclaws]

10 posts

 

[Apocaclaws]

Or die

 

[llettuce]

ten relevant posts

 

[Apocaclaws]

Ive got 14 on this page alone

 

[llettuce]

proud of u

 

[Matthieu]

So are people actually going to play the game or just lurk until a vote is cast and then mindlessly sheep it?

It's already been established that there's multiple factions in play, so even if you delude yourself into thinking I cannot be trusted, it's pretty stupid to just try to end the day phase as quickly as possible in order to stifle any further discussion.

As for this:

Unless a cleric gets blocked by a socialite blocking then n1?

I targeted myself on N1, though my action didn't go through as I mentioned during the previous day phase that there was a socialite in play which I confirmed, here:

No, though I can confirm that we have a Socialite who targeted me last night.

So, can people back off and actually discuss things?

 

[Matthieu]

Vote: Matthieu

You became infected when you targeted the PB night 1.

So, wait, what exactly did Claws target me with on N1? Is it not possible that he is the plaguebringer?

 

[GrumpyCat]

What is tree bread friend or foe

Shelob sound a bit like werewolf that decided to rampage at home. Treebread sounds a bit like arsonist but its a stretch.

 

[GrumpyCat]

So, can people back off and actually discuss things?

Ok so lets say i am a protective town thing. Is it sus to have 2 heals in a game that barely has any kills? ;p

 

[Matthieu]

Ok so lets say i am a protective town thing. Is it sus to have 2 heals in a game that barely has any kills? ;p

Barely? We haven't had a single kill as of yet.

Though it's confirmed that there are multiple factions in play and it's entirely possible that kills are being holstered and/or blocked. It could even be down to hysteria over being infected or simply a failure to submit night actions before the deadline, come to think on it.

 

[Matthieu]

There's also multiple investigative roles if we take Psycho and CWE at their word.

 

[Listo95]

So let me make sure I get this sequence of events right.

Psycho claims to have bugged Matt N1 and got an infected result.
Matt tried to self protect N1 but was told they had a socialite party at their house?
Which if that was the case unless the socialite listed Psycho D1 it’d be impossible for psycho to go to Matt. So 1 of them is def lying imo.

 

[CWE]

There's also multiple investigative roles if we take Psycho and CWE at their word.

I'm not a TI.

 

[CWE]

So let me make sure I get this sequence of events right.

Psycho claims to have bugged Matt N1 and got an infected result.
Matt tried to self protect N1 but was told they had a socialite party at their house?
Which if that was the case unless the socialite listed Psycho D1 it’d be impossible for psycho to go to Matt. So 1 of them is def lying imo.

Yup.

 

[Listo95]

But in that case Matt couldn’t get infected unless he was the PB. So yeah one of Matt/Psycho are the PB.

 

[CWE]

Either Psycho or Matthieu is PB. I'd wager a lot on it.

 

[Listo95]

Either Psycho or Matthieu is PB. I'd wager a lot on it.

Yeah I’d have it at something like 70/30 Matt/Psycho right now imo.

 

[Matthieu]

Matt tried to self protect N1 but was told they had a socialite party at their house?

I was told, specifically, that my action did not go off as I was 'uninvited from the party'.

 

[Listo95]

I was told, specifically, that my action did not go off as I was 'uninvited from the party'.

What I want to know is why did you try to use your self protect n1?

 

[GrumpyCat]

So let me make sure I get this sequence of events right.

Psycho claims to have bugged Matt N1 and got an infected result.
Matt tried to self protect N1 but was told they had a socialite party at their house?
Which if that was the case unless the socialite listed Psycho D1 it’d be impossible for psycho to go to Matt. So 1 of them is def lying imo.

Ot ldg day tagged matt and made a party in pb house and that is how he was infected? Not sure about how it works. And if matt got an info about a party wouldnt psycho get it too?

Would help if ldg had a will, lol imagine that.

 

[Listo95]

Ot ldg day tagged matt and made a party in pb house and that is how he was infected? Not sure about how it works. And if matt got an info about a party wouldnt psycho get it too?

Would help if ldg had a will, lol imagine that.

That… shouldn’t have caused Matt to get infected. I know in ToS1 it was only night visits that would cause the infection to spread.

 

[Matthieu]

What I want to know is why did you try to use your self protect n1?

It's one of the unofficial 'rules' I follow. If I'm the equivalent of a doctor, then I protect myself on N1.

 

[CWE]

What I want to know is why did you try to use your self protect n1?

It's not a horrible play. Clerics want to protect town, and in theory, you would only know one town on night 1.

 

[Listo95]

It's one of the unofficial 'rules' I follow. If I'm the equivalent of a doctor, then I protect myself on N1.

Even when the self protect is only 1 use?

 

[GrumpyCat]

Though it's confirmed that there are multiple factions in play and it's entirely possible that kills are being holstered and/or blocked. It could even be down to hysteria over being infected or simply a failure to submit night actions before the deadline, come to think on it.

I dont think of much reason to holster, if apoc has a berserker they dont need to worry about plague. And if sk type was worried they could try to take out a pb. Waitng wont help much as they could just get infected by pb anyway.

And i dont think not submiting fits the timeline.

 

[Listo95]

It's not a horrible play. Clerics want to protect town, and in theory, you would only know one town on night 1.

Normally I would agree but when it only has 1 charge I get more leery about it.

 

[Matthieu]

Even when the self protect is only 1 use?

Yes. Mitch and I clashed for most of D1 so I knew I was going to be a person of interest and what do you know, multiple players have indeed come out and claimed to have visited me.

 

[CWE]

Well if a tp finds another tp...they can chain. Hypothetically, cleric and crus go on each other, they almost can't die.

 

[CWE]

Yes. Mitch and I clashed for most of D1 so I knew I was going to be a person of interest and what do you know, multiple players have indeed come out and claimed to have visited me.

1 person has claimed to visit you. You've claimed 1 extra person. Who are these "multiple"?

 

[Listo95]

Well if a tp finds another tp...they can chain. Hypothetically, cleric and crus go on each other, they almost can't die.

Ah the good ol doc/bg combo from tos1

 

[CWE]

Ah the good ol doc/bg combo from tos1

Crus on crus is rhe GOAT.

 

[Matthieu]

1 person has claimed to visit you. You've claimed 1 extra person. Who are these "multiple"?

Psycho and Claws.

That's in addition to LDG apparently targeting me.

 

[CWE]

Psycho and Claws.

That's in addition to LDG apparently targeting me.

I missed Claws apparently...well now we have a 2 for 1.

Either you are lying and weren't visited by the soc. Or they are both lying and will hang tomorrow and the day after so your death will truly be a noble sacrifice.

For the greater good.

 

[Listo95]

If this is because of Psycho getting an infected result from Claws. If Psycho is infected every bug will result in him being told the person is infected.

 

[Listo95]

Cause I don’t think claws ever stated where he went N1?

 

[CWE]

Good. Thought I missed it...

 

[CWE]

Still a 1 for 1 between Psycho and Matthieu

 

[Matthieu]

No, my bad. I misread a post and mixed up Claws and Psycho.

 

[Matthieu]

At any rate, I remain comfortable with this angle:

Vote: Llettuce

 

[GrumpyCat]

Still a 1 for 1 between Psycho and Matthieu

What if psycho got infected n1 and he spread it to matt n1. Wouldnt he get that result? That matt was infected by him.

 

[CWE]

What if psycho got infected n1 and he spread it to matt n1. Wouldnt he get that result? That matt was infected by him.

Psycho would have been blocked by the socialite like Matthieu. Since once says they were blocked and the other says they got info...

 

[Matthieu]

Was anyone else told they were uninvited from the socialite's party?

 

[GrumpyCat]

I dont get how it works exactly, so 1 player is added to guest list during a day and then they are redirected to place where party takes place right? But how can someone get rejected? Who decides about that?

 

[GrumpyCat]

I didnt get any info regarding any parties.

 

[CWE]

I dont get how it works exactly, so 1 player is added to guest list during a day and then they are redirected to place where party takes place right? But how can someone get rejected? Who decides about that?

Socialite picks a target. If you target them, you get rejected. After 1 rejection...socialite can't block you anymore.

 

[Caito]

I hate you all

You have forced me to follow CWE due to his logic and reasoning, and I will never forgive you all.

Good thing Listo laid it out earlier too and makes me feel better about this.

Vote: Matt

 

[CWE]

I hate you all

You have forced me to follow CWE due to his logic and reasoning, and I will never forgive you all.

Good thing Listo laid it out earlier too and makes me feel better about this.

Vote: Matt

 

[Apocaclaws]

Ok so lets say i am a protective town thing. Is it sus to have 2 heals in a game that barely has any kills? ;p

Nope not in tos

 

[Apocaclaws]

We can shoot him next

 

[Apocaclaws]

Cause I don’t think claws ever stated where he went N1?

Didnt do anything n1

 

[MitchRapp]

Barely? We haven't had a single kill as of yet.

Though it's confirmed that there are multiple factions in play and it's entirely possible that kills are being holstered and/or blocked. It could even be down to hysteria over being infected or simply a failure to submit night actions before the deadline, come to think on it.

Both days began before the deadline. All roles were submitted. . .

 

[Apocaclaws]

Psycho would have been blocked by the socialite like Matthieu. Since once says they were blocked and the other says they got info...

But if psycho would of been blocked how did he get results?

 

[CWE]

We can shoot him next

 

[Apocaclaws]

Assuming graes not fibbling

 

[CWE]

But if psycho would of been blocked how did he get results?

Hence the 1f1. One of them are lying.

 

[Apocaclaws]

One other question with doom wouldnt he already went off with psychos claim and graes and mitch

 

[Apocaclaws]

Cuz thats 3

 

[CWE]

One other question with doom wouldnt he already went off with psychos claim and graes and mitch

Doom and rit can't hit TIs. That why TIs NEED TO SPEAK UP!

Seriously, do we only have 1 fucking spy? If so @VoidKitten ...you are evil...

 

[Apocaclaws]

Doom and rit can't hit TIs. That why TIs NEED TO SPEAK UP!

Seriously, do we only have 1 fucking spy? If so @VoidKitten ...you are evil...

Ahh didnt know that i assume we have 1 or 0

 

[CWE]

1 confirmed "free" town kill.

And that's why vote for alignment is a thing. If you are a TI, tell us freely who you are and what you've done. If you are a doc, crus, bg, ect...claim TP.

Tav, ret, ect...TS

TK for vig, vet, trick...

And T Pow...do whatever the fuck you want as long as you don't claim Monarch. Because I'd hang you next. Since you had a guaranteed townie you could have knighted and sat on your ass last night.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

Matthieu - 5 (CWE #821, Psycho #825, Apocaclaws #828, Llettuce #830, Caito #882
Llettuce - 1 ( Matthieu #875)

Not Voting: Blind Ninja, Grumpycat, Listo, MitchRapp, MTR

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on Sept 25th or when majority is reached. With 11 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

 

[Apocaclaws]

Tp

 

[Caito]

Don’t gimme that look. It’s your fault i’m following you….. also kind of Matt’s for having enough inconsistencies to arouse the suspicion he has, but still.

 

[MitchRapp]

I am just surprised that now everyone is willing to go Matthieu. I am tempted to hammer but it feels like a trap now.

I'm gonna make some breakfast and think about it.