Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

[Matthieu]

I don't really feel great about the way Matthieu hopped on the Future vote tbh

How so? I'm curious to see where it leads. Windward and Rock are both very 'brash', I suppose. I thought it was very interesting that they happened to align with the same target. It's a good way to either condemn them both if Future flips town or alleviate concerns about potential scum slips/backtracking if he flips scum.

 

[Matthieu]

About his wish**

Which? Both?

 

[Xanjori]

Which? Both?

I agree with the concerns around ressing Val when we had someone clearly murdered by scum.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I'm decent at reading him.

I think he's very likely to be town. As GC stated, he's been targeted N1 two games in a row. A vigilante/JOAT going after him would be strange, especially with players who didn't show up at all.

He was killed by Exodia that is some yellow asshole for doing that. Either not MMOC player or unaweare of previous games. or whatever what do i know.

 

[Matthieu]

I agree with the concerns around ressing Val when we had someone clearly murdered by scum.

...but I just explained my reasoning for Val in a recent post.

I'm confident reading Val, less so at reading MTR. I think it's likely that both were targeted by scum and we seemingly have two malicious sources of kills - namely red and yellow - so I don't really see what the big deal is.

 

[Xanjori]

...but I just explained my reasoning for Val in a recent post.

I'm confident reading Val, less so at reading MTR. I think it's likely that both were targeted by scum and we seemingly have two malicious sources of kills - namely red and yellow - so I don't really see what the big deal is.

Because a red kill has a higher chance of hitting a green poster while a yellow kill is (probably) completely blind.

 

[Xanjori]

...but I just explained my reasoning for Val in a recent post.

I'm confident reading Val, less so at reading MTR. I think it's likely that both were targeted by scum and we seemingly have two malicious sources of kills - namely red and yellow - so I don't really see what the big deal is.

And you being able to read Val is great and all, but if we have to then use an action to kill or yeet him later in the game cos it turns out he is red thats still not beneficial.

 

[Matthieu]

And you being able to read Val is great and all, but if we have to then use an action to kill or yeet him later in the game cos it turns out he is red thats still not beneficial.

I don't think he's red and we can safely rule him out as being yellow. I also dislike it when the same player is targeted two games in a row, since that makes it even less likely for someone to be inclined to contribute.

 

[3puppies]

Is this a real thought?

If so it will be obvious when a new character acts tomorrow that didnt act tonight

This is a void run game, so I fully expect there to be a lot, probably at least 10 more characters acting tonight that did not appear in N1 writeup. Giving lots of people multiple characters makes it harder for spreadsheeters.

 

[Xanjori]

I don't think he's red and we can safely rule him out as being yellow. I also dislike it when the same player is targeted two games in a row, since that makes it even less likely for someone to be inclined to contribute.

I also dont agree here. I dont think Exodia is linked to team rocket, I think its a solo SK.

 

[rock meets hard place]

It's a good way to either condemn them both if Future flips town or alleviate concerns about potential scum slips/backtracking if he flips scum.

chain lynch much? ewww Are you accusing me/wind of slips/backtracking?

 

[Matthieu]

chain lynch much? ewww Are you accusing me/wind of slips/backtracking?

You might be a rock but I can't get a solid read on you.

 

[rock meets hard place]

maybe you should stop sleeping so much then.

 

[Matthieu]

As for Windward, 'lol sry was drunk' has historically been a valid way to disguise accidentally messing up. Not saying it's definite, just something I've been pondering as a possibility.

Source: The healer in my raid group pretends to be drunk when he messes up mechanics.

 

[rock meets hard place]

healing is hard ok

 

[rock meets hard place]

agree that the Val res is dumb. MTR is either town or 3p.

 

[Matthieu]

It's not dumb.

 

[rock meets hard place]

OMGUS and all but prob scum.

Vote: Matthieu

 

[Matthieu]

OMGUS and all but prob scum.

Vote: Matthieu

You can't vote for me this day phase.

 

[Xanjori]

The one thing Id defend Matt with is I think he'd really believe in his ability to read Val and thats why he'd go for it and defend it. I also think its rather an overly large risk if we get flips/reveals that blatantly asking for a scum buddy to be ressed in front of the thread could have some consequences.

 

[rock meets hard place]

oh that thing.

Vote: blind ninja

 

[Matthieu]

Unvote: Future
Vote: Rock

i can vote for you though

lul
lol
lmao
haha
hehe
hohoho
heh...nothin' personal kid...

 

[Xanjori]

Vote: Blind Ninja

For inflicting this upon us

 

[Matthieu]

oh that thing.

Vote: blind ninja

...?

Why, though?

 

[rock meets hard place]

but if Matt is scum Val is town b/c he's buddying him.

 

[Xanjori]

but if Matt is scum Val is town b/c he's buddying him.

I cant see a world in which scum try to revive town just to buddy them. Like thats just too convoluted.

 

[Matthieu]

He already explained his reasoning for picking the number, because he killed me during the previous game...and since he was willing to do that, it's safe to say that he wasn't the one to kill Val since he'd also pay attention to who else perished early during the previous game.

 

[Matthieu]

All of this - at least on Rock's part - just seems like deflection, though. I do think Future is likely to be town, though. Maybe the fact that I explicitly pointed out that if Future flips town, we could go after Windward and Rock is precisely what triggered this.

 

[rock meets hard place]

I have a hard time understanding how mat, grumpy and ninja can still think im scum

 

[Matthieu]

but if Matt is scum Val is town b/c he's buddying him.

You're assuming that my wish is even chosen in the first place.

 

[rock meets hard place]

I mean, I called out Xan when he called for chain lynching, why would I not call you out?

 

[Matthieu]

I mean, I called out Xan when he called for chain lynching, why would I not call you out?

Because I like to get reactions out of people to see what I have to work with.

 

[rock meets hard place]

yeah sure

 

[Xanjori]

Also I think I TR Rock more for this whole thing, like he genuinely got frustrated with Matt and wanted to vote someone completely immune, that doesnt feel like scum play.

 

[Matthieu]

No, it's a vicious and cruel attack that must be stopped!

 

[Matthieu]

Team Rocket btw

 

[rock meets hard place]

I wish Blind Ninja were dead.

I wish matthieu would lose his protection.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Team Rocket btw

I know this is mostly a joke but if I was team rocket I'd be 3rd party when its the corp thats the biggest threat

 

[Matthieu]

I wish Blind Ninja were dead.

I wish matthieu would lose his protection.

I don't see how either of these actually benefit anyone.

 

[Xanjori]

I wish for 4 players to be chosen at random and entered into a private chat, one of the random players must belong to Kaiba Corp. The players will choose to vote out one of the others and that person will be eliminated as if they were voted out from the game.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 2 Vote Count:

Morrison - 3 (Blind Ninja #726, Psycho #733)
Blind Ninja - 2 (Rock #860, Xanjori #923)
Cape90 - 2 (CWE #751, 3puppies #788)
Psycho - 1 (Crackle #641)
FutureHold - 1 (Windward #856)
Rock - 1 (Matthieu #922)

Not Voting: Cape90, Claws, DivaSmurf, FutureHold, Kareemah, Listo95, Llettuce, Mazer, Morrison, Nightingale, Tildey, GrumpyCat #869

Current Modified Majority: 6

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end on Aug 16th at 8:00pm ET or when majority is reached. With 21 players alive, majority is 11 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority comes into play. If modified majority is not reached, there will be no elimination.

 

[Xanjori]

I don't see how either of these actually benefit anyone.

You're not suspicious of Blind Ninja at all?

 

[Matthieu]

I know this is mostly a joke but if I was team rocket I'd be 3rd party when its the corp thats the biggest threat

I want them both gone. Doesn't matter which is the 'bigger' threat, since 'bigger threat' doesn't always line up with 'most competent threat'.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Why a 25% chance when you coulda done 2 and make it 50/50?

 

[Xanjori]

Why a 25% chance when you coulda done 2 and make it 50/50?

Because I want a chance for the wish to actually be confirmed. And lol scum just stack and its a tie in a 2v2

 

[Matthieu]

You're not suspicious of Blind Ninja at all?

Not particularly, no. He's playing much as I would expect him to as town and the simple fact that he cast a vote for me after working out how the secondary D1 mechanic worked served to draw attention to him - something I really don't see him doing as scum.

 

[Matthieu]

Plus he explained his reason for the vote itself.

 

[Xanjori]

Like as someone that got 6 wishes granted in the Harry Potter game its about knowing your host. Theyre never going to grant boring kill wishes, you gotta make it interesting and put something on the table they view as fun for us and them.

 

[Matthieu]

Xanjori is very likely to be town for pointing that out. No real benefit to scum to encourage town to make constructive wishes.

 

[Claws]

Claws why didnt you cast a vote like requested?

Cuz im at work i can only pop in and out

Vote: xan

Happy meow

 

[3puppies]

Is Foxxi the wish granter?

 

[Xanjori]

Is Foxxi the wish granter?

We dont know. Ive got suspicions around Foxxi but I aint airing.

 

[Claws]

So psycho has 2 votes? Thats generally vote manipluation and 9 times outta 10 its a scum trait

 

[Claws]

We dont know. Ive got suspicions around Foxxi but I aint airing.

Have you talked to her?

 

[Xanjori]

Have you talked to her?

I have not

 

[Claws]

I have not

I Have an interesting thoery i dont think she can talk via thread but ive talked to her

 

[Claws]

 

[Matthieu]

Huh?

 

[Claws]

Mmhm

 

[Claws]

Praise the fox whos voice is the word and drowns out all others

 

[Blind Ninja]

Praise the fox whos voice is the word and drowns out all others

the fox whispers to you in the night?

 

[VoidKitten]

Meowth was upset. He may be the mascot of Team Rocket, but he didn’t appreciate the miscarriage of justice that happened overnight and would do everything in his power to fix it. Luckily, Meowth had recently stole from visited a PokeMart and had a Revive handy. He sprinkled the revive into the air and spoke some words in a language no one understood. Meowth’s eyes started to glow as he communed with the afterlife to bring someone back to us.

Meowth collapsed to the ground and started to lick his paw. “It is done. They will be back at the end of the day.”

 

[Claws]

Resurrections are lame

 

[Claws]

You guys need to stop putting them in mafia

 

[Claws]

the fox whispers to you in the night?

Not exactly. We dont talk anymore

 

[Claws]

Not exactly. We dont talk anymore

Your close tho

 

[Blind Ninja]

I have a hard time understanding how mat, grumpy and ninja can still think im scum

you are dense... and claim I dont read your shit.

Read what ive posted. I said you are completely cleared as town. Scum have, can and often do roles like RB on themselves. Sure vanilla is a bit extra, but depending on the scum roles, not unheard of. Also said you are not someone id be willing to go. I think everyone can be scum, except for MTR who was killed by scum.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 2 Vote Count:

Morrison - 3 (Blind Ninja #726, Psycho #733)
Blind Ninja - 2 (Rock #860, Xanjori #923)
Cape90 - 2 (CWE #751, 3puppies #788)
Psycho - 1 (Crackle #641)
FutureHold - 1 (Windward #856)
Rock - 1 (Matthieu #922)
Xanjori - 1 (Claws #950

Not Voting: Cape90, DivaSmurf, FutureHold, Kareemah, Listo95, Llettuce, Mazer, Morrison, Nightingale, Tildey, GrumpyCat #869

Current Modified Majority: 6

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end on Aug 16th at 8:00pm ET or when majority is reached. With 21 players alive, majority is 11 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority comes into play. If modified majority is not reached, there will be no elimination.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Your close tho

So just a convo in the night, or was it during the day?

 

[Claws]

So just a convo in the night, or was it during the day?

I cant really specify but ill just say yes

 

[Blind Ninja]

I wish Blind Ninja were dead.

I wish matthieu would lose his protection.

So humor me for a moment...

How would you feel about these wishes, when these people flip green?

 

[Blind Ninja]

I cant really specify but ill just say yes

think im picking up what your putting down.

 

[Blind Ninja]

@morrison @Listo95 @Tildey @DivaSmurf @Kareemah @Mazer @FutureHold

You lot have been more or less MIA this game. Any thoughts?

 

[Matthieu]

Meowth was upset. He may be the mascot of Team Rocket, but he didn’t appreciate the miscarriage of justice that happened overnight and would do everything in his power to fix it. Luckily, Meowth had recently stole from visited a PokeMart and had a Revive handy. He sprinkled the revive into the air and spoke some words in a language no one understood. Meowth’s eyes started to glow as he communed with the afterlife to bring someone back to us.

Meowth collapsed to the ground and started to lick his paw. “It is done. They will be back at the end of the day.”

Awesome!

 

[3puppies]

I Have an interesting thoery i dont think she can talk via thread but ive talked to her

Neighbor?

 

[Matthieu]

@morrison @Listo95 @Tildey @DivaSmurf @Kareemah @Mazer @FutureHold

You lot have been more or less MIA this game. Any thoughts?

Seven? That's definitely something to be concerned about, especially if they keep it up.

 

[rock meets hard place]

i'm colorblind

 

[Claws]

Neighbor?

I cant say

 

[Xanjori]

Awesome!

Why is this awesome? Do you not think he'd ress someone on his team?

 

[Claws]

i wish every1 was vanilla'd


you all need to go back to your roots

 

[rock meets hard place]

good one

 

[Claws]

It wont happen anyways

 

[Claws]

Most ppl hate playing non power heavy games

 

[rock meets hard place]

some don't even post

 

[CWE]

i wish every1 was vanilla'd


you all need to go back to your roots

That is evil and I love it at the same time.

Is that wrong?

 

[Claws]

That is evil and I love it at the same time.

Is that wrong?

I like it as it also messes with the mods grand plans

 

[Claws]

Dtick it to the man

 

[Matthieu]

Why is this awesome? Do you not think he'd ress someone on his team?

It's awesome because it's awesome because Val is coming back.

 

[Matthieu]

I think? Unless it's someone else. Either way, I've already outlined how I suspect both N1 deaths to be town players so...

 

[Xanjori]

It's awesome because it's awesome because Val is coming back.

You're literally saying Val is on team rocket

 

[Xanjori]

Eh maybe Im misreading it and Meowth isnt ressing a Rocket member, but seems odd the mascot would be impartial.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I like it as it also messes with the mods grand plans

Guess it all depends on what kind person we have as wishgranter

 

[Xanjori]

I dont think a game like this would ever become mountainous. But you know its a pretty funny wish

 

[Claws]

It probably wont likely void will not allow ot on the list

 

[Claws]

Im kinda confused on meowth id be tempted to relynch the res guy just cuz

 

[Matthieu]

Eh maybe Im misreading it and Meowth isnt ressing a Rocket member, but seems odd the mascot would be impartial.

I read it as purely being flavour text. Ultimately Val was killed by yellow so I find it unlikely that Val, himself, is a yellow aligned player.

The chance of there being shenanigans at play is never something that can be fully cast aside, of course, though having reread the thread even back on D1 some people seemed strangely eager to try and yeet Val towards the end of D1. Even when there were multiple outright no shows.

 

[Xanjori]

I read it as purely being flavour text. Ultimately Val was killed by yellow so I find it unlikely that Val, himself, is a yellow aligned player.

The chance of there being shenanigans at play is never something that can be fully cast aside, of course, though having reread the thread even back on D1 some people seemed strangely eager to try and yeet Val towards the end of D1. Even when there were multiple outright no shows.

I do keep explaining to you that I dont think Exodia and Team Rocket are aligned. Exodia is a SK and Team Rocket is a 2-4 man team?

 

[Matthieu]

I do keep explaining to you that I dont think Exodia and Team Rocket are aligned. Exodia is a SK and Team Rocket is a 2-4 man team?

Surely if they weren't aligned it'd make more sense to just use different colours to signify that they're separate entities?

 

[Claws]

I do keep explaining to you that I dont think Exodia and Team Rocket are aligned. Exodia is a SK and Team Rocket is a 2-4 man team?

Im thinkin this

 

[Claws]

Or team rocket is one guy like a joat