Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

[rock meets hard place]

is today our only day to nominate a king? If the king loses his or her original role then we should vote someone with a not great role but that requires a mass claim and we shouldn't do that.

 

[Listo95]

If anything Rock can talk to the prince tonight.

 

[rock meets hard place]

eh *shrugz*

 

[Listo95]

Look it’s simple. 3pup claimed knight. Only way to kill Foxxi as the possessor is with a timesnatcher or enforcer. Enforcer is the converted knight. 3pup is Enforcer.

 

[Xanjori]

Look it’s simple. 3pup claimed knight. Only way to kill Foxxi as the possessor is with a timesnatcher or enforcer. Enforcer is the converted knight. 3pup is Enforcer.

Im willing to go along with this I think. But we're still deciding on the king

 

[Listo95]

Im willing to go along with this I think. But we're still deciding on the king

 

[rock meets hard place]

Scorned lose their passive if they are attacked 2 nights in a row. So couldn't she just have been shot t n1 and then again on n2 without the use of frenzy?

 

[Listo95]

Scorned lose their passive if they are attacked 2 nights in a row. So couldn't she just have been shot t n1 and then again on n2 without the use of frenzy?

Possessor is immune to death at night.

 

[rock meets hard place]

oh i was looking at the wrong one lol

 

[3puppies]

Found our likely N1 convert guys.

Not me. I have protected Mazer both nights. I'd like to hear from him.

 

[Listo95]

Not me. I have protected Mazer both nights. I'd like to hear from him.

What a weird target with a claimed phys.

 

[Xanjori]

What a weird target with a claimed phys.

Kinda agreeing with Listo here, why wouldnt you protect Matt? Also we're about to become kingless

 

[MTR]

Yeah have to agree there that odd choice to not protect the physcian.

Yeah I feel like we are not going to have a king but I think I am okay with that.

 

[Listo95]

Vote: 3puppies

 

[Blind Ninja]

So we agreed on no King. Fun times.

Looking back seems like listo found some info. Nice find on that. Definitely fits with how Foxxi died.

Full on agree here. 3pups should be the target. Also dont like rock, but thats a problem for another day.

Vote: 3pups

 

[Listo95]

So we agreed on no King. Fun times.

Looking back seems like listo found some info. Nice find on that. Definitely fits with how Foxxi died.

Full on agree here. 3pups should be the target. Also dont like rock, but thats a problem for another day.

Vote: 3pups

I believe the prince should have a nice talk with him tonight.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

3puppies - 2 (Listo95 #714, Blind Ninja #715)

Not Voting: 3puppies, CWE, FutureHold, MTR, Mazer, Rock meets hard place, Satsu, Xanjori

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 2nd or when majority is reached. With 10 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

 

[VoidKitten]

About 23 hours remaining in Day 3.

 

[rock meets hard place]

don't really like the "I don't like rock" with no reason but eh. I'll just claim out like everyone else and listo and BN can have egg on their faces. 3pups targeting Mazor over a claimed doc is ????

Vote: 3puppers

 

[Listo95]

don't really like the "I don't like rock" with no reason but eh. I'll just claim out like everyone else and listo and BN can have egg on their faces. 3pups targeting Mazor over a claimed doc is ????

Vote: 3puppers

You can say that tonight tyvm.

 

[rock meets hard place]

does occupying me prevent me from using my role?

 

[Listo95]

does occupying me prevent me from using my role?

Yes.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Yay! Town gets one less use. Great job, that.

 

[Blind Ninja]

don't really like the "I don't like rock" with no reason but eh. I'll just claim out like everyone else and listo and BN can have egg on their faces. 3pups targeting Mazor over a claimed doc is ????

Vote: 3puppers

Your play is the reason. When I dont have straight up info to go on, I can only go based on interactions. And you've been combative about things when people didnt agree with you

 

[MTR]

I have gone back and forth a bit on rock but starting to lean blue dragon.

I can get behind the 3pups vote though.

 

[Mazer]

Either that or Foxxi used Mazer and knows he is assassin

Wouldnt that be .....more than a lean then?

 

[Mazer]

If it's a true claim, I would guess 3pups is playing Rajah style with his move, and also basing it off my normal rep and not what I'm doing today.

But I think I should be able to sleep for at least 4 hours tonight, and I've weathered the storm here.

Looking forward to a full reread now.

 

[Listo95]

If it's a true claim, I would guess 3pups is playing Rajah style with his move, and also basing it off my normal rep and not what I'm doing today.

But I think I should be able to sleep for at least 4 hours tonight, and I've weathered the storm here.

Looking forward to a full reread now.

Dear god why only 4 hrs? o.O

 

[rock meets hard place]

And you've been combative about things when people didnt agree with you

Can you quote some examples b/c I don't think this is true? Maybe you are trying to claim that me questioning people's logic for scum reading a slot that I know can't be scum is "being combative", if so that's really not the same thing as "being combative when people don't agree with you." but I don't think I've ever lashed out at disagreeing with me.

but I guess laughing the vote off and being a jerk and then threatening to venge action town is the proper response.

You remind me of this guy that used to scumread me all the time for the most inane reasons.

 

[CWE]

Dear god why only 4 hrs? o.O

4 hours seems resonable-ish.

 

[VoidKitten]

A bit under 13 hours left in Day 3.

 

[Xanjori]

I dont see a real reason to distrust Rock that strongly on his play in thread. Also unfortunately Im super busy today, will be around closer to EOD

 

[CWE]

I dont see a real reason to distrust Rock that strongly on his play in thread. Also unfortunately Im super busy today, will be around closer to EOD

I wanted to but couldn't find a post worth pushing. Simply becuase it's fun to push new people for a baseline reaction for...future studies let's say.

Rock feels clean. For now.

 

[Satsu]

Look it’s simple. 3pup claimed knight. Only way to kill Foxxi as the possessor is with a timesnatcher or enforcer. Enforcer is the converted knight. 3pup is Enforcer.

I thought 3pup was eiter a knight or mercenary. And it should have been obvious for both of those roles to defend doc claim. If you say that its impossible nightingale was executed by prince then mechanically 3pups is best target for today.

 

[MTR]

I have not been about to wrap my brain around things as much as I wanted to the last couple days. I need to read through things again.

I am going to go ahead and put down a vote for 3pups but going to try to revisit things through the day if I have time in between things at work.

Vote: 3pups

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

3puppies - 4 (Listo95 #714, Blind Ninja #715, Rock #719, MTR #735)

Not Voting: 3puppies, CWE, FutureHold, Mazer, Satsu, Xanjori

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 2nd or when majority is reached. With 10 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

 

[VoidKitten]

A bit under 8 hours remaining.

 

[Satsu]

On a sidenote 3pupies is someone i just cant stop to townread. But maybe he is someone that gives out m&ms at day and kills foxes at night.

But seriously hes got to be todays yeet. L-2 now i think.

 

[Mazer]

Dear god why only 4 hrs? o.O

A normal night's sleep is 12:30-1:00 to 5:00.

It's a sign of weakness to wake up on a different day than the one you went to sleep on.

 

[Mazer]

Is the primary argument against 3pups his night actions?


Right now my trust list, is more of a trust listo.

 

[Listo95]

Is the primary argument against 3pups his night actions?


Right now my trust list, is more of a trust listo.

And his claim. Foxxi can only be killed by 3 actions, Prince, Enforcer, Timesnatcher. Enforcer is the most likely and that is the conversion of the Knight, which 3pups claimed. Timesnatcher would cause a bleed to happen the same night, but Possessor can Possess to heal themselves, so unless she got RBd I find it unlikely, especially since I think she caused the death of either Matt/Morri. Enforcer is the most likely.

 

[Mazer]

My reservation with 3 pups, and I apologize if I've missed something, but I'm not sure what motivation he would have had to come out with a false claim at this point.

 

[Mazer]

This, and your earlier thoughts, make sense. Do you see my reason for hesitation?

 

[rock meets hard place]

he claimed d2, not today

 

[rock meets hard place]

he claimed protective yesterday, and then later said that he has protected you both nights instead of the other protective which is ??? Listo is inferring that he's a knight, was recruited and then used frenzy to kill Nightengale.

 

[Mazer]

he claimed d2, not today

What do you feel his motivation was for needing to make a claim then?

 

[Mazer]

he claimed protective yesterday, and then later said that he has protected you both nights instead of the other protective which is ??? Listo is inferring that he's a knight, was recruited and then used frenzy to kill Nightengale.

thx. I'm not trying to throw a wrench in. the d1 claim is still interesting, but the thought of the n1 conversion makes sense. If 3 puppies, is in fact converted, the mind goes certain places fo other possibilities.

 

[Listo95]

What do you feel his motivation was for needing to make a claim then?

It was more of a soft claim in response to Foxxi.

 

[Mazer]

futurehold.....are you scum?

 

[VoidKitten]

About 6 hours remain in Day 3.

 

[Mazer]

Just give me a couple extra hours in case future needs more time.

Thanks in advance

 

[MTR]

At this point I am trusting and following listo and hoping that it works out.

@FutureHold Answer your uncle already unless you are mowing the yard then in which case carry on and then answer the question.

 

[VoidKitten]

Just give me a couple extra hours in case future needs more time.

Thanks in advance

That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out request.

Overruled.

 

[ForgottenHold]

futurehold.....are you scum?

No, I am not, this is true at the time of this message

 

[ForgottenHold]

I also get behind a 3pups vote, sorry I haven't talked a lot

 

[Mazer]

No, I am not, this is true at the time of this message

Why aren't you?

Mtr, do you think futurehold is scum?

 

[Mazer]

That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out request.

Overruled.

Sorry. I'm going to have to continue in my previously requested manner. I know that means you're going to have to put in some OT. And I KNOW how hard you've been working. But it's what the team needs. And believe me, if I had other options....I'd use them.

But I tell you what. Go get lunch on our dime. And bugger off a little early on Friday.

 

[3puppies]

Been tied up with a crisis at work. No point in arguing to save myself, as there's not much time left in the day.

But why would I claim my role if I had been converted to scum?

If Future was scum, MTR would be dead by now.

Not sure where to place my vote so

Vote:
SLEEP

 

[Mazer]

Been tied up with a crisis at work. No point in arguing to save myself, as there's not much time left in the day.

But why would I claim my role if I had been converted to scum?

If Future was scum, MTR would be dead by now.

Not sure where to place my vote so

Vote:
SLEEP

What do you think MTR?

 

[MTR]

Why aren't you?

Mtr, do you think futurehold is scum?

I am leaning that he is blue dragon but not completely convinced. 3pups keeps saying if Future was scum I would be dead but that is not completely true. He has never gone right after me when he is scum and I am not. Because if I die right away people are going to look at him. So all that being said he could be scum and just waiting to kill me but there was something he said at one point that made me start leaning blue dragon. let me see if I can find it

 

[3puppies]

I did not believe he was the doctor, but I thought if he was, then I'd just be trading my life for his. And I wanted to keep playing.

Selfish attitude on my part gonna get me yeeted

 

[MTR]

Well as far as claiming goes 3pups if I was converted I had already claimed I would totally keep going with what I claimed. I did last game.

 

[Listo95]

I did not believe he was the doctor, but I thought if he was, then I'd just be trading my life for his. And I wanted to keep playing.

Selfish attitude on my part gonna get me yeeted

Don't even know how the role works.

 

[MTR]

At least I know you're not scum, or weren't recruited

@Mazer

Future said this in response to me at one point. Which made me start thinking not scum.

 

[rock meets hard place]

he could still say that as unseen so im not sure how that makes him BD.

 

[Mazer]

I love my nephew. Despite his refusal to do his chores.


But we do know he is not CWE. And I wonder if your quote actually indicates something different.




DUH DUH DUH

 

[MTR]

He could be telling fibs for sure but that just gave me pause that he investigated me or something. Like I said I am leaning but not convinced.

 

[rock meets hard place]

could be an invest but its not a fib if he's unseen and knows you aren't on his team.

 

[MTR]

That would be pretty bold to mean that when he said that. But also people sometimes will say crazy stuff in this game.

 

[Mazer]

And sometimes the heart wants what the heart wants

 

[Mazer]

Listo-no major changes in your earlier thoughts/reads?

 

[Listo95]

Listo-no major changes in your earlier thoughts/reads?

Not really. Gut is still iffy with Rock. I'll need to try and ISO people to see if I find anything else.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

3puppies - 4 (Listo95 #714, Blind Ninja #715, Rock #719, MTR #735)
Sleep - 1 (3puppies #758)

Not Voting: CWE, FutureHold, Mazer, Satsu, Xanjori

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 2nd or when majority is reached. With 10 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

 

[VoidKitten]

Just over 4 hours remaining

 

[Mazer]

Vote: 3pups

 

[Mazer]

Just over 4 hours remaining

Just check in with me and I'll let you know when to pull the plug. Currently thinking about 6 hours.

 

[Mazer]

Not really. Gut is still iffy with Rock. I'll need to try and ISO people to see if I find anything else.

the 3pups flip seems pretty apparent. If we're wrong, and he was truthful, would that change your thoughts any?

Blind Ninja jump in on this too?

 

[Listo95]

the 3pups flip seems pretty apparent. If we're wrong, and he was truthful, would that change your thoughts any?

Blind Ninja jump in on this too?

Would depend on what I see when I ISO him.

 

[Blind Ninja]

the 3pups flip seems pretty apparent. If we're wrong, and he was truthful, would that change your thoughts any?

Blind Ninja jump in on this too?

Sorry was away for a bit, went a saw Oppenheimer. Def worth seeing on IMAX if you havent already.

listo put together a solid string to figure out 3pups and I feel its the strongest and best way to move forward. Claimed Knight, then the death on Foxxi. Prince hasnt come out saying he jailed/executed Foxxi, so the conclusion of Knight turned Enforcer with frenzy seems most logical. Especially since the Timesnatcher combo could have been prevented with possess.

I know Ive been wrong on a lot of reads in the past, but this is the most solid thing we have to move on this game. More solid then the "info" on Jack. I dont know how my thoughts will change if 3pups flips Knight. Would definitely need to go back and reread the game and see what we missed.

As far as if its not 3pup, just cant shake rock from my mind. Could be bias based on not knowing the person. The Future/MTR stuff also makes me want to look in that direction. Iso and try to figure out what, aside from Future softing an investigation. Also dont like the "At the time of this message" almost as if he wants to be recruited but hasnt been.

 

[Listo95]

2hrs 8mins until day ends.

 

[MTR]

I am good with my vote where it is. After the Mazer vote just need one more before end of day to hit majority.

 

[Xanjori]

Vote: 3pups

I am here if anyone wants to talk, but I dont know if I have much to add. Listos case makes sense, and if its wrong we just speed chop him tomorrow :D

 

[VoidKitten]

Final Day 3 Vote Count:

3puppies - 6 (Listo95 #714, Blind Ninja #715, Rock #719, MTR #735, Mazer #775, Xanjori #782)
Sleep - 1 (3puppies #758)

Not Voting: CWE, FutureHold, Satsu

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 2nd or when majority is reached. With 10 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

—-------

The group came together to discuss who would be King now that the evil had been routed from the highest spot amongst them. However, no one really wanted to step up to that position and there didn’t seem to be someone that anyone wanted either. The group decided that they did not need a King to define them and decided to buck the trend and go Kingless.

As the day wound down, the group listened to everyone’s discussions and pleas and they ultimately decided that 3puppies was the most suspicious and they decided it was time to make him nopuppies. The group grabbed 3puppies and bound him, throwing him into a pen of feral pigs. As the group walked away, they knew nothing would be left of 3puppies.

3puppies, playing as The Enforcer, has been eliminated and a logbook was found.

Logbook:

Spoiler

Since the only action I have available tonight is to defend, and since I don't know enough about anyone to trust them, I'll defend Mazer. If he is attacked, it would likely be by scum, so trading my life to take out scum seems like a good deal for town.

It is now Night 3. Night 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 3rd or when all actions are submitted. Actions must be submitted by 7:00pm ET for them to be valid.

 

[VoidKitten]

The night came and went quickly. Everyone in their beds or prancing around during the night doing whatever they wanted. They all knew it was risky. They were making good steps against the evildoers but there was more work to be done.

Xanjori was minding his own business when a bird landed on his window. He opened it and let the bird inside. It flew around the room and then quickly squawked and left. Xanjori went to the window and watched it fly away, loving how free the bird seemed. Before he could react, he was lifted and tossed unceremoniously out of the window. Unlike the bird, however, Xanjori did not fly and hit the ground with a sickening crunch.

Xanjori, playing as The Drunk, has been killed and a logbook was found.

Logbook:

Spoiler

N1 I did nothing
N2 Satsu redirected to Futurehold

—-------

Living Players:

1. BlindNinja
2. CWE
3. FutureHold
4. Listo95
5. MTR
6. Mazer
7. Rock meets hard place
8. Satsu

It is now Day 4. Day 4 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 5th or when majority is reached. With 8 players alive, majority is 5 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, no elimination will occur.

 

[MTR]

Okay. So I am bleeding and there is no doctor to heal me so I die at the end of night. I am the hunter so yeah give me top suspects and I am going to make some one bleed and take them out on my way out.

 

[Listo95]

Okay. So I am bleeding and there is no doctor to heal me so I die at the end of night. I am the hunter so yeah give me top suspects and I am going to make some one bleed and take them out on my way out.

Honestly, shocked I'm not dead.

My top suspects are Rock/Future.

 

[rock meets hard place]

oh so that's where the red stain on my carpet came from

 

[MTR]

Honestly, shocked I'm not dead.

My top suspects are Rock/Future.

I actually did hunters mark and you were player b so that if Future targeted you then I would attack him.

 

[rock meets hard place]

is there any reason to believe that your scum read on me is anything more than rage fueled OMGUS?

 

[Listo95]

is there any reason to believe that your scum read on me is anything more than rage fueled OMGUS?

Gut feel.

 

[rock meets hard place]

sure it is.

 

[Listo95]

sure it is.

It literally has been all game.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Whats future based on?

 

[Listo95]

Whats future based on?

I feel like I can trust BN and Mazer, I know my own role, I think I narrowed CWE down, MTR is apparently bled. Leaves, Future, Satsu, and you. Of the three I haven't had any pings by Satsu.

 

[rock meets hard place]

you trust the two people that are willing to follow you. How convenient. Satsu needs to talk more about his thoughts on the game, as does future.

What pings you about me and Future.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I want to hear more from Future, CWE and Satsu. Even though I feel CWE is a neutral with his own wincon.

I feel rock is sus and he hasnt given me a reason to think he's town.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Is the primary argument against 3pups his night actions?


Right now my trust list, is more of a trust listo.

I don't fully trust Mazer b/c he did lightly defend/stall a 3pup lynch. The last sentence in the first quote and the last quote makes me think his plan is to just follow Listo around.

My reservation with 3 pups, and I apologize if I've missed something, but I'm not sure what motivation he would have had to come out with a false claim at this point.

What do you feel his motivation was for needing to make a claim then?

thx. I'm not trying to throw a wrench in. the d1 claim is still interesting, but the thought of the n1 conversion makes sense. If 3 puppies, is in fact converted, the mind goes certain places fo other possibilities.

Listo-no major changes in your earlier thoughts/reads?

 

[rock meets hard place]

I feel rock is sus and he hasnt given me a reason to think he's town.

I asked you yesterday to give me examples of me getting mad at people for not agreeing with me and even if that was true (wich its not) why would scum do that?

 

[Listo95]

you trust the two people that are willing to follow you. How convenient. Satsu needs to talk more about his thoughts on the game, as does future.

What pings you about me and Future.

I 100% trust Mazer outside of that.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I asked you yesterday to give me examples of me getting mad at people for not agreeing with me and even if that was true (wich its not) why would scum do that?

The way youve reacted to most things this game. Do I need to go back and quote our interactions? I see no reason to argue with you, if you arent giving me any inclination that you are town and can be trusted.