Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

[Claws]

honestly im not so sure we want to let him get them yes an inactivity vig is nice but what happens if he gets all the pieces is it one kill or is he gunna wipe every1 else out

 

[VoidKitten]

Also, just to make it clear. That message from Jesse and James was a legitimate message from said person. I did not write that :).

 

[llettuce]

who came up with gioninja

 

[VoidKitten]

who came up with gioninja

That one is all me.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Wind was maybe roleblocked by Omnimon? I'm not 100% sure as it could have just been her actions being messed with but that's sort of how I read it. Which if true would clear her of a lot of scum. I think 3pups was definitely blocked though so same thing.

Kind of confused about Pikachu's action. Like Thunder Wave would be a roleblock I would think but the poised to react part really confuses me.

And I think those who have been theorizing about Exodia looking for 4 people might be right. Maybe one of each type of flavor? Seems like it would be hella luck to stumble on two specific people one after the other. The Diva kill could also imply there's an inactivity-fueled kill, but it doesn't explain the Val kill.

Kinda feel like maybe Claws was framed? Guessing Celtic Guardian watched Windward so we might actually know who Omnimon is.

Also if Mazer was up to anything nefarious last night, we should know from Squirtle if that's a track as I read it.

 

[Crackleslap]

Alright. I definitely have confirmed info. Someone is very bad. I can reveal it now or...i can let it simmer and see what this day brings before i do.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

rock's death really makes me want to look at those who kept trying to shade him over the last couple phases. Kareemah immediately comes to mind. There was also Matthieu, but he at least updated to a townread.

I think I was the only one really pushing Diva, so not sure there's much to be gained there for me.

Anyway, I'll probably be gone for a while, but I'll be able to post more later tonight/tomorrow afternoon

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Alright. I definitely have confirmed info. Someone is very bad. I can reveal it now or...i can let it simmer and see what this day brings before i do.

I think the latter is always a good choice to see how people react before the truth is out there. But drop it whenever you're ready.

 

[Crackleslap]

Also i wish i could acces my discord rn.

 

[3puppies]

Wind was maybe roleblocked by Omnimon? I'm not 100% sure as it could have just been her actions being messed with but that's sort of how I read it. Which if true would clear her of a lot of scum. I think 3pups was definitely blocked though so same thing.

Kind of confused about Pikachu's action. Like Thunder Wave would be a roleblock I would think but the poised to react part really confuses me.

And I think those who have been theorizing about Exodia looking for 4 people might be right. Maybe one of each type of flavor? Seems like it would be hella luck to stumble on two specific people one after the other. The Diva kill could also imply there's an inactivity-fueled kill, but it doesn't explain the Val kill.

Kinda feel like maybe Claws was framed? Guessing Celtic Guardian watched Windward so we might actually know who Omnimon is.

Also if Mazer was up to anything nefarious last night, we should know from Squirtle if that's a track as I read it.

If Mazer was tracked by Squirtle, who was Rock, we won't know since Rock is dead.

 

[Crackleslap]

Wind was maybe roleblocked by Omnimon? I'm not 100% sure as it could have just been her actions being messed with but that's sort of how I read it. Which if true would clear her of a lot of scum. I think 3pups was definitely blocked though so same thing.

Kind of confused about Pikachu's action. Like Thunder Wave would be a roleblock I would think but the poised to react part really confuses me.

And I think those who have been theorizing about Exodia looking for 4 people might be right. Maybe one of each type of flavor? Seems like it would be hella luck to stumble on two specific people one after the other. The Diva kill could also imply there's an inactivity-fueled kill, but it doesn't explain the Val kill.

Kinda feel like maybe Claws was framed? Guessing Celtic Guardian watched Windward so we might actually know who Omnimon is.

Also if Mazer was up to anything nefarious last night, we should know from Squirtle if that's a track as I read it.

If you're theory about exodia is correct, then we could assume Vals previous role was not green?

 

[Crackleslap]

Or as in pokemon yugiho stuff?

 

[Crackleslap]

Also i wish i could acces my discord rn.

I just realised this may make me look bad because i said i have info. For clarity i asked VK to pm anything that happened last night on this website.

 

[llettuce]

If you're theory about exodia is correct, then we could assume Vals previous role was not green?

his previous role was green though right?

 

[llettuce]

or are you saying it appeared green but wasnt?

 

[llettuce]

bc d2 end he flipped green

 

[Crackleslap]

bc d2 end he flipped green

At first i thought he waa talking about red green yellow but then i reread and realised he probably meant pokemon, yugioh etc characters

 

[llettuce]

Oh, yeah I need to look back and see if I can figure out how they are paired

 

[llettuce]

Wait no

 

[llettuce]

the digimon and magic guys are evil and the pokemon and yugio are good, so assumedly everyone would have one of each unless theyre someone weird

 

[llettuce]

Wish I could fucking read man

 

[3puppies]

I presume Rock getting taken out was because he was a loud voice for town, likely getting too close for their comfort.

Crackle, the simple fact that you've told everyone you have info will likely make scum VERY cautious about what they post.

the digimon and magic guys are evil and the pokemon and yugio are good, so assumedly everyone would have one of each unless theyre someone weird

This is where I feel not knowing anything about any of these characters' origins puts me at a disadvantage.

Are you saying characters come from digimon, pokemon, magic and yugio? Are those the bloodlines Exodia is after?
If so, were Val's original character, and DivaSmurf's characters from different bloodlines?

 

[Cape90]

So there was night chat open? Oops, I just saw it was night 2 then just... didn't post because it was night 2 and didn't look back

 

[llettuce]

So yes all 4 of those groups are in the game, but I think all evils have a digimon and magic character and all the town have a yughio and pokemon character

 

[llettuce]

gimme a sec 3 pups ill put you some examples from our dead comrades

 

[Crackleslap]

I presume Rock getting taken out was because he was a loud voice for town, likely getting too close for their comfort.

Crackle, the simple fact that you've told everyone you have info will likely make scum VERY cautious about what they post.




This is where I feel not knowing anything about any of these characters' origins puts me at a disadvantage.

Are you saying characters come from digimon, pokemon, magic and yugio? Are those the bloodlines Exodia is after?
If so, were Val's original character, and DivaSmurf's characters from different bloodlines?

No, I realise that. Just find the people that aren't asking too many questions or giving to many answers.

 

[llettuce]

Blind Ninja, playing as Team Rocket, the Manipulating Super JOAT Jester/Unjester, has been eliminated in a gleeful victory.


Val the Moofia Boss, playing as Mystical Elf/Garbador, the Redirecting Ability Backup, has been killed.

So here Team Rocket is a "major" pokemon boss, likely includes 4 characters and has no accompaniment

For val Mystical Elf is a yugioh card and Garbador is a pokemon

DivaSmurf, playing as Time Magician/Marowak, the Town Captain JOAT, has been killed.


Rock the hard place, playing as Saggi the Dark Clown/Squirtle, the Tracking Ability Cop, has been killed.

For Diva Time Mag is a yugioh card and marowak is a pokemon

Same order for rock

 

[Cape90]

I am with CWE - My first thought is that the action red took on Cape felt like some sort of protection of another scum - perhaps make them appear to be green, or that attacks on them would rebound,

Impmon was not about to be outdone by another impish monster. He set out from the secret Kaiba Corp location and located Cape90. Impmon spoke a spell quickly and warped the shadows around Cape90 to change the reality of incoming assaults.

what made you think this about the visit by mafia on me as opposed to anyone else?

Rock got visited by mafia night 1 and died today

 

[llettuce]

I'm guessing anyone red has the same set up but with magic/digimon so its likely that every person has at least two characters one from each franchise

 

[Cape90]

For your sake, I hope Cape is town...

and your push on me is flat out strange to me and I almost want to call it towny for how lazy it is

 

[llettuce]

Anyway, to sum up from your original question @3puppies I dont think so because everyone will have two franchises represented

 

[Cape90]

Bleh, that's actually a solid point against Cape and now I feel dumb for thinking he was town yesterday. I can't imagine scum protecting someone who wasn't scum, unless by some restriction they were required to do so, but obviously they wouldn't ever intentionally try to kill their own protection target. I feel like I'm just a bit confused because I thought it might be more complicated than it is, but it's probably simple.

Vote: Cape90

Vote: WindwardAway

Alright when I flip town, we got one

Trust

Like, this just feels so slimy to me

Catching up still

 

[llettuce]

Though I guess it could be two green two red???

 

[Claws]

Also, just to make it clear. That message from Jesse and James was a legitimate message from said person. I did not write that :).

i didnt even read it cuz who cares what bn says

 

[llettuce]

Red is arms and green is legs, idk that would be pretty fun and i think the best way to do game design is by what would be funniest

 

[llettuce]

i didnt even read it cuz who cares what bn says

ur so mean

 

[3puppies]

what made you think this about the visit by mafia on me as opposed to anyone else?

Rock got visited by mafia night 1 and died today

I felt that since CWE was blocked N1, he is likely town, because he is ruled out from all the scum that acted.

And you didn't die, or seem to present any restrictions.

And I haven't played nearly as many games as most of y'all, but I do recall (mostly in Jarrod games) the scum occasionally had a power to "chip" or do something to make someone appear as a different color if investigated. If they did, they'd want to use it, so I was mildly suspicious of you. Since CWE voted you based on his gut, I wanted to see if anyone else thought about this possibility as we didn't really have much to go on.

 

[Cape90]

Actually I'm concerned about a specific thing that might not imply Cape is scum off of this, but I should probably just worry about it later and let Cape defend himself first.

Lemme ask you this then

Why would mafia defend me if I was mafia then? I was being widely townread day 1, they would be more concerned about other members sying unless they were ALL townread.

 

[Cape90]

I felt that since CWE was blocked N1, he is likely town, because he is ruled out from all the scum that acted.

And you didn't die, or seem to present any restrictions.

And I haven't played nearly as many games as most of y'all, but I do recall (mostly in Jarrod games) the scum occasionally had a power to "chip" or do something to make someone appear as a different color if investigated. If they did, they'd want to use it, so I was mildly suspicious of you. Since CWE voted you based on his gut, I wanted to see if anyone else thought about this possibility as we didn't really have much to go on.

I guess you were right, I sure didn't have any restrictions, no idea what they visited me for because I got nothing on what impmon even is.

 

[Claws]

ur so mean

thanks your the best

 

[Cape90]

I think both Claws and Matthieu look better by looking at page 10

I still am skeptical though of Matthieu because of the whole immunity thing until now though so I am not opposed to that idea

 

[Xanjori]

So there was night chat open? Oops, I just saw it was night 2 then just... didn't post because it was night 2 and didn't look back

Derp clear denied

 

[Cape90]

i wish every1 to have a turn rolling the dice of demise

okay but wtf

 

[Cape90]

Derp clear denied

that wouldn't derp clear me anyways presumably

 

[Cape90]

it would just prove i cant read

 

[llettuce]

I guess you were right, I sure didn't have any restrictions, no idea what they visited me for because I got nothing on what impmon even is.

Hm and no roleblock?

 

[Cape90]

Yeah, I'm poking around rather than gluing my vote. I'm not all that committed to most of these votes but I will announce very loudly when I'm convinced.

hmm

 

[Cape90]

Hm and no roleblock?

nope, maybe an invest or something idk

 

[Mazer]

Agreed! But I'm guessing the effects of reaching their goal are probably more devastating than bn's has bebeen

That's how I'd lean. Two wincos with less impactful outcomes seem improbable.

 

[Mazer]

Psych
I'm worried I missed something. Can you give me your take on tthe whole crackle read extra vote situation from yesterday

 

[Cape90]

breaking form=suss

what are you talking about here?

 

[Cape90]

CWE dropped their emoji gimmick day 1 ago

 

[Mazer]

what are you talking about here?

Cwe always goes for psych then me.

Sometimes when he doesn't there could be stuff

 

[llettuce]

whys he so predictable

 

[Crackleslap]

Psych
I'm worried I missed something. Can you give me your take on tthe whole crackle read extra vote situation from yesterday

Tbh im more worried about my new info, then the info I got n1.

 

[Mazer]

whys he so predictable

His actual reads aren't. He's got a process.

He's like someone waved a magic wand and turned the book The Checklist Manifesto into a real boy.

 

[Mazer]

Tbh im more worried about my new info, then the info I got n1.

I'm interested in that as well.

I wasn't around much d2 though, and my questions for psych are like participles.

I try never to let them dangle.

 

[llettuce]

His actual reads aren't. He's got a process.

He's like someone waved a magic wand and turned the book The Checklist Manifesto into a real boy.

I know but man when hes scum people tend to know

Also i have never heard of this

 

[MTR]

Okay so I am trying to do some stuff right now but after a quick read through and what not I am going to go ahead and place my vote. Don't rush the yeet. Talk things out, get wishes in, etc. And I am probably going to die without protection at this point. lol

Vote: Cape

 

[GrumpyCat]

I have some info too. Maybe not as juicy as who omicron could be but still helpful. I ll tell you later.

 

[MTR]

Back later to read what people have been posting and react and respond

 

[llettuce]

I have some info too. Maybe not as juicy as who omicron could be but still helpful. I ll tell you later.

Have we had a transformers game

 

[CWE]

Tbh im more worried about my new info, then the info I got n1.

Is your info what I think you're info is?

 

[llettuce]

Okay so I am trying to do some stuff right now but after a quick read through and what not I am going to go ahead and place my vote. Don't rush the yeet. Talk things out, get wishes in, etc. And I am probably going to die without protection at this point. lol

Vote: Cape

Can you elaborate more on why you think so

 

[llettuce]

Man one of yall gotta drop some of this info

 

[Matthieu]

I think both Claws and Matthieu look better by looking at page 10

I still am skeptical though of Matthieu because of the whole immunity thing until now though so I am not opposed to that idea

I don't follow. What about my immunity? I just got lucky to be picked as the winner.

 

[Matthieu]

Man one of yall gotta drop some of this info

Agreed with this. There could be day kills or day restrictions in play, so if you have something to say...just say it. Even if there's no danger afoot then at least it extends the amount of time people have to digest and weigh in on it.

 

[Xanjori]

that wouldn't derp clear me anyways presumably

A wolf team would tell you!

 

[Xanjori]

Also have we had 5 scum act both nights?

 

[CWE]

Share the dees.
Share the dees.
Share the dees.

 

[Cape90]

Man I lost a good chunk of my readslist

im blaming Xanjori

 

[Cape90]

well they were written out reads

 

[Cape90]

fine i will tldr them

 

[GrumpyCat]

I know who cant be red. Should i say it? It could lower their life expectancy.

 

[Cape90]

llettuce hasn't made major reads since Sunday. That feels coasty

But then we have Kareemah who only had one scum read who just died in rock and was saying silly things like rock was only posting to hit postmin, like if they were doing that why would they top post? Also their non filler moved the game forward

Tidley felt wolfy in that they "read" everything once, but hasn't provided an actual read off that, and then proceeded to talk about how they are usually better then this

 

[Mazer]

I don't follow. What about my immunity? I just got lucky to be picked as the winner.

I don't see the win as being alignment indicative.

Unless everyone else understood better than me.

 

[Cape90]

listo is kinda the same story, they also feel verbally stally.

i have my eye on blind ninja since rock died, but I am still kinda leaning town there due to threadstate of a million coasters LOL

 

[Mazer]

I know who cant be red. Should i say it? It could lower their life expectancy.

I mean.....that's kind of the desired outcome.

 

[Cape90]

Mazer is like... okay? so far but I don't get a strong impression from them.

CWE is one I am conflicted on, mostly would like to see more from them to gauge if their push on me is a town thing or a mafia thing, because I kinda lean town, but it feels for not good reasons

 

[CWE]

Mazer is like... okay? so far but I don't get a strong impression from them.

CWE is one I am conflicted on, mostly would like to see more from them to gauge if their push on me is a town thing or a mafia thing, because I kinda lean town, but it feels for not good reasons

The reasons were tequila.

 

[Crackleslap]

Matthieu brings up a good point. Diva poor girl.

Vote: Psycho

 

[Cape90]

then again, it was mentioned that CWE was blocked night 1

 

[CWE]

Matthieu brings up a good point. Diva poor girl.

Vote: Psycho

Vote: psycho

 

[MTR]

Can you elaborate more on why you think so

No. I can not. This is what I can do without claiming. Trust me

 

[Claws]

introduce a little anar

okay but wtf

i was feeling a lucky

 

[Xanjori]

Listo feels like a hit too tbh

Vote: Listo

 

[Cape90]

I think the way 3puppies talked a lot in the thread day 2 as opposed to day 1 was town indicative, esp since 1. town likes pushing me for arbitrary things I have noticed 2. They are productive in solving the game.

FutureHold doesn't feel towny but they have only posted 10 times.

There are recent things that make me just beleive GrumpyCat is town here, like them witholding info stuff tbh

 

[CWE]

Listo feels like a hit too tbh

Vote: Listo

If Listo is scum, I will laugh. For...reasons.

 

[MTR]

My interpretation of the writeup RP:

Ur-Dragon (scum) could see everyone's actions last night?
Haunter (town) tracked someone.
Omnimon (scum) roleblocked Windward
Pegasus (town) watched or roleblocked 3puppies
Squirtle (town) tracked Mazer
Dark Magician Girl (town) did ???
Gabumon (scum) did ???
Exodia (SK) killed DivaSmurf
Divasmurf (town) flipped JOAT
Sudowoodo (town) might be a vigilante or roleblocker who failed to find his target
Pikachu (town) roleblocked MTR
Ditto (town) tracked PsychoSoldier
Gatomon (scum) did ??? to Claws. Sent him a message?
Celtic Guardian (town) watched WindwardAway
Oko, Thief of Crowns (scum) killed Rock the Hard Place (Squirtle)

I was not blocked. I think I was protected

 

[Cape90]

Crackleslap still feels really towny, Xanjori does to, but the ladder means Xanjori is wolfing. (I don't believe this read)

Psycho has felt very towny recently

and finally WWA is trending a bit down for me, could see them being deepwolf, the way they handled me gave me the heeby jeebies, stuff after that felt ~fine but a bit coasty ig

 

[CWE]

Psycho has felt very towny recently

Psycho never fells towny until he finds an evil. (Sorry not sorry )

 

[ForgottenHold]

I think the way 3puppies talked a lot in the thread day 2 as opposed to day 1 was town indicative, esp since 1. town likes pushing me for arbitrary things I have noticed 2. They are productive in solving the game.

FutureHold doesn't feel towny but they have only posted 10 times.

There are recent things that make me just beleive GrumpyCat is town here, like them witholding info stuff tbh

You forget, I am always scum, even when I'm not, and I have reasons to believe MTR over you, I have gotten better at reading scum MTR

 

[Cape90]

So overall this is where I am at

MTR (revived)
Cracklestep

3puppies
Xanjori

GrumpyCat
PyschoSoldier
Claws

CWE
Blind Ninja

Matthieu
Mazer
WindwardAway

llettuce
Kareemah
Val
FutureHold
Listo
Tidley

 

[Claws]

You forget, I am always scum, even when I'm not, and I have reasons to believe MTR over you, I have gotten better at reading scum MTR

if this is an attempt at power wolfing its poor

 

[MTR]

I think the way 3puppies talked a lot in the thread day 2 as opposed to day 1 was town indicative, esp since 1. town likes pushing me for arbitrary things I have noticed 2. They are productive in solving the game.

FutureHold doesn't feel towny but they have only posted 10 times.

There are recent things that make me just beleive GrumpyCat is town here, like them witholding info stuff tbh

Future is not red.

Don't believe he is Exodia

 

[CWE]

Future is not red.

Don't believe he is Exodia

Interesting.

 

[Cape90]

You forget, I am always scum, even when I'm not, and I have reasons to believe MTR over you, I have gotten better at reading scum MTR

what do you make of the MTR kill and then revive then? I feel like no matter what, that shouldn't be resolved

 

[llettuce]

No. I can not. This is what I can do without claiming. Trust me

Did you feel like you were at risk tonight

 

[Cape90]

Future is not red.

Don't believe he is Exodia

haven't played with either of you so okay

 

[ForgottenHold]

what do you make of the MTR kill and then revive then? I feel like no matter what, that shouldn't be resolved

I think MTR has a very powerful role, and BN decided to bring him back over Val because he was trying to townside