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Christmas Mafia 4 (Mafia 30): The House of MTR 2-God Loves, MTR kills

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Satsu's posts feel so uninspired. I remember him being one of the more proactive voices in the last couple of games I played with him. Here he just...exists, without doing anything

Mitch's posts definitely have "randed mafia energy" as well.
 
As for Voidkitten I personally don't think he has made himself readable yet. He is a shitposter by choice much like myself. I mean if multiple people start yelling at me and saying that Void would have normally made some towny moves by now as town then I could be convinced to go here today. But the pushes that have been made against him so far haven't convinced me all the way yet.

I do however have a certain check in mind for VoidKitten. And if he doesn't pass that check whenever he actually starts playing then he is GUARANTEED to be mafia. The best part about it is that he has no idea what it is. But he might be able to figure it out if he thinks about it which is why it won't be a guarantee of him being town if he does pass it.

If he doesn't start playing at all then he can die of course.
 
Right, 8pm my time and almost time for milk and cookies, so this may be my last post for the night, unless you want to address me personally:
Mazer said:
As Maze lay on the ground, Lucifer Morningstar looked on with compassion at his fallen lieutenant. This was an outrage. The Morningstar lit up the night sky, and his glory was observed by Psych, void, Mtr, Tildey, future, letty, drey, 3puppies, and morrison. Truly it was an awesome sight.
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Take 3pups out, cos he dead, and me for obvious reasons. I don't feel the chances of all the remaining house being scum are high enough to risk voting for one of them. I'll let Mazer worry about Morri.
You know what? I'm going to align with Claws this day.
Vote: Voidkitten
 
Dreyski said:
Right, 8pm my time and almost time for milk and cookies, so this may be my last post for the night, unless you want to address me personally:

Take 3pups out, cos he dead, and me for obvious reasons. I don't feel the chances of all the remaining house being scum are high enough to risk voting for one of them. I'll let Mazer worry about Morri.
You know what? I'm going to align with Claws this day.
Vote: Voidkitten
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I don't understand why you would need all of the House to be scum to vote for one of them who you think is scum. I'm not following your logic, and that makes me suspicious of your motives.
 
Insaner said:
I don't understand why you would need all of the House to be scum to vote for one of them who you think is scum. I'm not following your logic, and that makes me suspicious of your motives.
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The chances of the house all being town is pretty low, one of us have to be scum. Good thing it’s not me
 
Quite correct. We also don't have any other theories to work with and
Insaner said:
We don't actually know if that theory of yours about Lucifer revealing people's roles is correct.
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Quite correct, but with nothing else going round, no dees from other players, and my history with Mazer-run games sometimes the simplest answer is the coorrect one.
I'm more than willing to hear competing theories.
 
Insaner said:
I don't understand why you would need all of the House to be scum to vote for one of them who you think is scum. I'm not following your logic, and that makes me suspicious of your motives.
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I don't need them all to be scum - this was poorly worded - but I want to avoid the scenario where we sequentially yeet them all to find out who was what.They'll need further investigation, absolutely, but I wouldn't entertain a D2 yeet of any house members at this point
 
Kill me if you want. I’m town. Doing Christmas stuff and just don’t have time to actually post until it’s all done.

Excuse or not. I don’t actually care <3
 
Dreyski said:
And maybe Mazer could lock the thread and halt the clock tomorrow via some Violina & Lucifer Morningstar powers?

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Something something MTR or Tildey bring up how I listen to this band but if I’m being honest I stopped listening to them because most of their songs sound the same to me now.

That’s off topic, so I got to put some solving into this. I’m not going to write BN off as scum, I’m on the fence with VK. I’m unsure if I want to start drama with Claws though
 
As far as I see it, one possible option for this day phase is to go the sleep route - if only because of how likely it is that most if not all of us are going to be busy and distracted for the remainder of the day and the lack of much opportunity for deeper analysis.

That being said, I'm not married to the idea.
 
Satsu said:
If Mitch is a watcher then it looks worse for LDG. Hard to imagine what she would want to do with Tildey on her own.
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This makes no sense to me. If Mitch is watcher, and he saw LDG visit Tildey, then he couldn't be sure that LDG didn't doc Tildey.

I'm very untrustful of people who are leaving ambiguous hints as a way to slide by.
 
This is going to be another one of those games where scum all take the path of least resistance and push town LDG, isn't it?
 
Satsu said:
If Mitch is a watcher then it looks worse for LDG. Hard to imagine what she would want to do with Tildey on her own.
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I'm eery about you not catching what Mitch's claim was despite seemingly being so attentive. I think the wording in the write-up (he would be damned if he would see harm come to Tildey) as well as Mitch's hints make it extremely clear that he is in fact claiming hider. So you not only not catching it but also going along with Future's misinterpretation to shade LDG isn't a good look.
 
In before he is going to backtrack to say "I just realized it was a hider action which is why I said that Tildey wasn't docced".
 
I guess there is one person who would know for sure if Mitch was lying now.

Weren't there anti claim rules or something?

Whatever

Vote: Satsu
 
I want to believe that Mitch is better than to heavily crumb his role as town despite it being explicitly prohibited by the game rules.
 
That


Jackie Daytona was rarely worried, but dammit he had come to love these Hallmark actresses, and he'd be damned if he would seem harm to come to them. He went to talk to Tildey about hosting a fundraiser.

Im Game GIF by What We Do in the Shadows


Coupled with Mitch's posts reacting to the discussion of him hiding in scum chat makes it very explicit.
 
Like if Mictch isn't hider then he is a lying wolf who misrepresented his claim.

If he is town he's getting mk'ed.

This is how I see this.
 
Insaner said:
Like if Mictch isn't hider then he is a lying wolf who misrepresented his claim.
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Only way I see it could work is if cwe was jackie and scum would want to use his role or whatever. But you can just look for next day writeup and see if jackie shows again.

Go Mitch for now on you are my OG jackie
 
Insaner said:
This is too explicit to be anything other than a hider claim who acted on Tildey last night.
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I can follow your thought process here, but I just dont fell likes it the truth for Mitch. And if it is, that he has crumbed and let slip his role, we should see him dead. If he doesnt die, all the more reason to feel he is scum imo.
Satsu said:
Only way I see it could work is if cwe was jackie and scum would want to use his role or whatever. But you can just look for next day writeup and see if jackie shows again.

Go Mitch for now on you are my OG jackie
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No sure why I pulled this satsu quote, other then to maybe respond to him about the back and forth with Insaner. I agree, the line in the writeup about Tildey could be multiple things. Could be a JK, could be a doc, could be a BG. All would protect them from harm if Tildey was a target.
 
I dont trust Mitch with how he is playing.

D1 was random voting with no explination and his "This is partly right" to
Insaner said:
I think Mitch is scared to post, hiding in wolf chat.
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Why would you be scared to post on D1, unless afraid to get caught... he is experienced enough to be able to D1 and not scum spew. I just took the partly true part as him hiding in scum chat.


Then came his playing dumb about "what does docced mean" Come on man.

Thinks just dont add up when it comes to Mitch right now

If he was trying to play, without being noticed, he failed. If he was trying to not bring attention to himself with his play, he failed.
 
Insaner said:
This makes no sense to me. If Mitch is watcher, and he saw LDG visit Tildey, then he couldn't be sure that LDG didn't doc Tildey.

I'm very untrustful of people who are leaving ambiguous hints as a way to slide by.
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I didn’t even mention LDG, don’t put words in my mouth
 
Satsu said:
Bad news. Unless there is an inactivity vig Mazer wont do anything, hes bluffing.

Whitch is bad because I am starting to lean theres just scum in lurkers.
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I wouldn't be surprised that to find out that at least one scum is someone that is lurking more than posting and taking advantage of the low activity by multiple people due to the holiday to skate by.
 
Well, looks like there are trains going full speed ahead. 0 sleep votes thats good news.

otherwise pretty much that.
 
One is by your bestie Val an Insaners top town Psycho and another is on VK i guess. hes boring as f. otherwise what happened to voting out lurkers?
 
MTR said:
I just discovered I could have been watching games on Paramount +. Dammit.
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Kicking off in 15 mins, but the big game people are waiting for is 4th January - East Lancs/cotton mill derby, at Ewood. Probably an early kick-off, so I don't know what time that would be at your end.
 
@morrison 0 posts, past the normal d2 cutoff. Gonna play?

@llettuce 1 post. posted friday and not since.
@Tildey 1 post. Said They would post more, yet nowhere to be seen. that halfday tuesday and few days off have resulted in no effort.

@Listo95 6 posts. So technically under the 5 posts a phase recommendation. still low effort.
 
Ok, finally getting around to reading stuff. Starting with the write-up

Lucifer maybe used a lightning rod on himself? I have reasons why it doesn't perfectly lineup, but still seems like the most logical answer. I'm not gonna speculate on the other actions too much yet, but 3pups being killed by scum makes me think that the Matthieu wagon is maybe not as dirty as it seemed since anyone who cared to push on that would have less people to choose from to find scum. Unless they want us to think that, and I'm not going that deep into WIFOM yet.
 
Listo95 said:
Are we just going based on what Val said? A lot of those actions seem very ambiguous.
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Yeah, I wasn't really sold on his descriptions being accurate. Only one that seemed most plausible was the roleblock on Claws(which is a pretty good look for him considering how many red roles were active)
 
Vote: Morrison

Temporary vote as a placeholder.

I'm not really feeling the votes on Psycho. What am I missing, since they seem to have come in quite abruptly.
 
mitch (1) - bn
psycho (4)- val, mitch, LDG, drey
void (2)- claws ,satsu
Satsu (1) - insaner
morrri (1) - matt
 
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Dreyski said:
My working theory is that he made all our actions 'visible' in the writeup. Which could work to our advantage because that list of names should contain up to four mafia members (Mab, MTR, Not Suspicious Future, Gentleman John Marcone)
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Oh, wait, this is actually a really good theory
 
Mazer said:
mitch (1) - bn
psycho (4)- val, mitch, LDG, drey
void (2)- claws ,satsu
Satsu (1) - insaner
morrri (1) - matt
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I look forward to fully catching up and seeing if any of these votes actually have any reasoning or if it's something as dumb as "Psycho isn't here so must be scum."
 
Matthieu said:
Vote: Morrison

Temporary vote as a placeholder.

I'm not really feeling the votes on Psycho. What am I missing, since they seem to have come in quite abruptly.
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Val in post 378 seemed very insistent. Would he happy getting yeeted if Psycho flips town?
 
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