The audacity shame on you putting me in thereFuck me the first 5 votes on Robo could legit make up my entire POE.
Its giving me shivers being on this wagon. Like its convincing me Robo flips green. But I dunno if it says anything about VKs alignment
Well now I know you're a wolf lmaoThe audacity shame on you putting me in there
I moved my vote to MTR.Vk (6) - Jarrod, bn, rock, night, listo, val
Mtr (2) - vk, drey
Robo (8) - claws, llettuce, Crich, matt, grump, mtr, psych, xan
Xan (1) - LDG
Yeah, that was after I started typing.I moved my vote to MTR.
Pfft you wishWell now I know you're a wolf lmao
Gonna have to declaw you nowPfft you wish
Me, but I dont think VK is a wolf and I think wolves are pushing v!Robo and then just be like "Well we were playing to the rules of hammer"Who said the Robo wagon is a cop-out with an inactivity vig?
Ive been declawed the entire timeGonna have to declaw you now
Same, I'm feeling VK might be a scum motivated wagon to either save Robo or try to cause a double town elimination from the tie.Me, but I dont think VK is a wolf and I think wolves are pushing v!Robo and then just be like "Well we were playing to the rules of hammer"
Wait til EoD to try and get a train going on someone. This feels scummy as hell to me.Unvote:
Vote: MTR
Lets get other counter trains going.
You realise I was sleeping earlier right?Wait til EoD to try and get a train going on someone. This feels scummy as hell to me.
Apology accepted.Shit, turned the page and saw hammer. Apologies.
If Void is town, scum literally had no reason to care which one they were on. If he's scum then drey may be sus. Obviously I know I'm not scum, and I still think kryllian was roleblocked out of all scum roles N1D1
Mtr(1) - crich
Xan (2)- Kryll, cwe
listo(1) - robo
psych (1)- badger
matt (1) -dreyski
vk (2) -bn, claws
rock (1)-llettuce
badger(1)- jarrod
future (9)- vk, Jay,gc, val, night, psych
jarrod (1) - rock
kryll (1)- Listo
sleep (3) - mtr, future, matt
D2
Grumpy (1) -psych
Vk (5) - Jarrod, bn, rock, listo, val
Mtr (2) - vk, crich
Robo (9) - claws, llettuce, matt, grump, mtr, xan, night, drey, kryll
Xan (1) - LDG
That Robo train has some scum on it.
If VK is town then thinking at least one on the Void train is scum too, to not give away their whole team.
If Void is scum then they'd have poured on the votes at the endmake be sure Robo would go through. It was sorta close at one point at the end.
I'd start at the back end of the votes for at least one scum.
Curious what others think.
I don't have any opinions of his posts exactly, but I have pings due to wagonomics D1 - he and future were both on sleep, and no one else bothered to vote there despite sleep generally being the end result of D1. I struggle to understand why scum wouldn't try to take that accepted avenue of trying to save future. The only things that come to mind are:Night, how do you feel about Matthieu? He seemed ok to me at first but his later posts last phase gave me some gut pings
Again...I'm like 99% sure future was never actually rez'd. His "rez" didn't increase the maj point, and he wasn't listed in the living players at EoD2 or SoD3BTW did Future 0 post all of D2?
Future 0 posting D2 confirmed my suspicions it wasn't a real resurrection.Again...I'm like 99% sure future was never actually rez'd. His "rez" didn't increase the maj point, and he wasn't listed in the living players at EoD2 or SoD3
Kinda hard to Jail Jay, who is dead... which makes this an interesting situation.Scum jailed town character Claws and Commander Shepard, possibly Jay Baruchel and Listo too.
I don't die early in games. I tend to joke about it, but I really don't die early so both. Had some shit to take care of that I took a day off from work on and cleaned the entire house of cardboard and misc boxes we have accumulated over the past two years. Then went around finding open commerical dumpsters to drop it in because our local one wants an obscene amount of money for recycling.It is interesting that vk didnt try to to save himself at eod. Did he think he is not in danger or just afked.
That seems really early to use a fake flip without knowing the rest of the game state. A flip can be absolutely vital later on. I remember scum in one of Foxxi's game swapped Claws or Mazer (i can't remember now) to an opposite alignment and completely fucked up my push which was accurate and neutered me basically.Some tinfoil for a minute... With Future not returning as likely a red herring, What If scum has the ability to alter the writeup for a character flip? The real deceiver is still out there and just made the 1st person dead flip their role
The main benefit to this is if one of the scum team is up for being shot. Or the inactive person is not around and would be an easier misyeet. I'd probably have let Robo die if he were the only choice. He can be a strong player when he posts. It also depends on what Jackie is too.If Void is town, I'm sus of listo jumping on board after I voted and Void started to look like a viable wagon. Especially if the scum have some form of redirect, and it looked like they did N1 -- letting a lurker live so that the inactivity vig could potentially be manipulated is absolutely a strategy that's been used by scum before. It effectively gives them a second kill if they have a form of redirect and can guess correctly who the target will be. And since we didn't see any 3p kill I'm thinking that means the 3p was either blocked or had no one they could target.
I'm rambling, but my point is unless Void is scum, I kinda think the scum team would want to have let Robo live.
EBWOP: JLaw, not Jackie.It also depends on what Jackie is too.
Would this be assuming that they were trying to save me? I would think the scum team would not care who goes over, as long as majority isn't hit and it isn't one of them. That would help them even more than just a standard misyeet.If I were to guess where scum would be positioned on Robo, it would probably be in the middle and end parts of the train.
Do you have any feelings on where people stand currently?Man there so many random unrelated names I don't know what's going on lol
Is it like a smoking gun? Not at all, but it is peculiar and it stands out. Scum were happy with whomever got yeeted but would have preferred a misyeet happening with no hammer. I don't think the desire to try and train someone at EoD is scummy. It typically ends up coming from a town PoV, especially if the votes have been more or less stagnant. But when you add in the hammer mechanic, it feels a lot worse.hrmmm... that's a fairly decent point but I'm not really sold richard is scum
I know nothing about such penalty. I had reservations on Robo which admittedly were a little too late, because their wagon was stagnant which points towards scum being comfortable as one of their own wasn't dying D2.I really don't know how much I like cRich's reaction to Jarrod calling him scummy. I don't there there was any calling out of timezones. cRich may have come in and just quickly tried to do an alternate train and then decided to read, but it was right at EoD. If my thought it right that scum would have preferred a non-hammer misyeet, this makes me dislike the MTR vote for just that reason.
I also still don't like MTR from earlier and admittedly didn't read everything today still. Claws gets an honorable mention from Xan's death and his reaction with "audacity." It is close to "how rude"
Vote: CRichard
Not because of your timezone. I dislike that you voted off of a major train when there is a penalty for hammer not being hit.
I feel that scum wanted you alive regardless of your alignment. If you're town, then scum are counting on having you being the lazy vote out because resolve counter train go brrr mentality. Of course, if you're scum then whoever pushed your train EoD2 is probably close if not all town. As scum would have no reason to push your train over Robo in the world you aren't town.Would this be assuming that they were trying to save me? I would think the scum team would not care who goes over, as long as majority isn't hit and it isn't one of them. That would help them even more than just a standard misyeet.
I know nothing about such penalty. I had reservations on Robo which admittedly were a little too late, because their wagon was stagnant which points towards scum being comfortable as one of their own wasn't dying D2.
I bolded the part in the rules.Game Notes
This will be a Role Madness game. Which will include a bit of devilry (wink, wink).
Do not claim roles or breadcrumb. I will kill you way faster than voidkitten.
You are strongly encouraged to make more than 5 posts a day and vote. If you need a replacement, please let me know
Day phases cut off at 48 hours. Night at 24. The cutoff occurs whether I am online or not.
If there is no hammer before the end of the day phase, the leading vote getter will be eliminated. If there is no hammer reached, the hammer the following day will decrease by 1. This effect stacks. If there is a tie, both players will be eliminated.
Good to know. Again, that was completely missed on my part. If you don't believe it, that's your problem not mine.I bolded the part in the rules.
I mean I'm making it your problem at this point :). Sure, I absolutely believe you missed it in the initial post. I missed it myself on first read. But it was talked about multiple times in the thread by myself and others. We even had a whole thing getting clarification from Mazer on it too.Good to know. Again, that was completely missed on my part. If you don't believe it, that's your problem not mine.
Wow it's almost as though I miss things on my 1st game here on this site. I never knew it was possible until now.I mean I'm making it your problem at this point :). Sure, I absolutely believe you missed it in the initial post. I missed it myself on first read. But it was talked about multiple times in the thread by myself and others. We even had a whole thing getting clarification from Mazer on it too.
I have absolutely zero expectations on people playing 24/7. I literally wasn't here for a large part of Day 2. It is a rare day I sus someone for not being around.The posts about it were made while I'm sleeping. If you expect me to pull all nighters to read every post, then you'll be disappointed. You have unrealistic expectations on people being able to play mafia 24/7.
Thats not quite right youve offer sacrifice of yourself for a d1 lynch candidate a few times and ive shot you n1 other timesI don't die early in games. I tend to joke about it, but I really don't die early so both.
I was ignorant then, so at least I'm brought up to speed today so thanks for that.I have absolutely zero expectations on people playing 24/7. I literally wasn't here for a large part of Day 2. It is a rare day I sus someone for not being around.
I do expect some knowledge of a game mechanic that was discussed on both game days (i think) and can directly affect a scum strategy. I might be wrong, but I do not like.
I was trying to see if the flavor of the kills would hint at anything, but came up with nothing that would point at why two kills.So we have 4 deaths N1, and a flipless death N2. That makes me think the extra KP is odd nights/inactive, because 4 deaths down to 1 is a stark difference.
Claws, when was the last time I was killed early in a game? You would have to go back awhile.Thats not quite right youve offer sacrifice of yourself for a d1 lynch candidate a few times and ive shot you n1 other times
That singing form of writeup is just the worst @Mazer
Well it would be alot more often if you didnt jump into modding every other game i believe we have taken you up on it once i also n1d you in i think videolandClaws, when was the last time I was killed early in a game? You would have to go back awhile.
I do offer myself up, but does anyone ever take me up on it?
Wouldnt be the first time val is actually surprising good at it tooClaws has been modkilled for insulting the host's writing capabilities.
You dont like bn? Your missing out hes an ok guy under all that sassI think it was BN who said it was done by AI. Yet another reason to not like AI
I was pushing on Robo for quite some time before EoD2. If I was scum, I'd probably stay off wagon entirely for cred.I'm sorta with Void on the whole Richard thing. It struck me as odd to try and start a new train at that moment. It felt like scum just trying to be seen but not wanting to be on Robo train knowing Robo wasn't scum.
That's probably scummy in a vacuum, unless someone has a god read on them.I don't think either of you are scum. I think Drey's ISO is lacking in game content. Is this normal for them?