Like I said, you'll have to convince me to vote him. I'm waiting.Quoted for posterity.
Unfortunately you're only willing to parrot Listo and vote 'because MTR lol' Give me something to work with!
Like I said, you'll have to convince me to vote him. I'm waiting.Quoted for posterity.
That goes same for you. (except the parrotting Listo bit)*Listo will remember this*
Without knowing anything about CWE's role its hard to guess (which I'm sure is a reason for his method of kill - maintain confusion). If we had an idea what his role name was then we'd be better able to take run at what his results may or may not have been (and maybe even solve his riddle).Insaner actually seems more towny in this phase. What’s getting me is how (or even if) CWE was evidently wrong according to Insaner in misinterpreting his dees. To be fair CWE did go back a bit but it would be good to get to the bottom of that before I feel better about Insaner.
Yes let us see if that can come to light somehow.Without knowing anything about CWE's role its hard to guess (which I'm sure is a reason for his method of kill - maintain confusion). If we had an idea what his role name was then we'd be better able to take run at what his results may or may not have been (and maybe even solve his riddle).
I've asked myself the same question, lol. Technically anything is possible, regardless of likelihood. However, there are fewer of us playing than usual so wouldn't that increase the possibility of all three of us randing town? I know I'm town and, so far, I've been consistently reading Future as town. Up to now, MTR hasn't sold me one way or the other. But I'm just now getting to his posts in the thread (I'm commenting as I'm reading) so we'll see if that stays the same.I’m also genuinely undecided if it’s a possibility all the House are town. Still getting a bit of paranoia there’s one but will wait and see how things go.
Okay fair enough.I've asked myself the same question, lol. Technically anything is possible, regardless of likelihood. However, there are fewer of us playing than usual so wouldn't that increase the possibility of all three of us randing town? I know I'm town and, so far, I've been consistently reading Future as town. Up to now, MTR hasn't sold me one way or the other. But I'm just now getting to his posts in the thread (I'm commenting as I'm reading) so we'll see if that stays the same.
To be fair, his naps are typically migraine related. Maybe there's a correlation between the stress of being scum and bringing on migraines? lolIts not nai your very much more into napping when your scum
When I get straight out caught I start to shit post.
I just wanna point out what did mtr actually contribute in that time i see nothing. Just ill do it later
Okay my vote is staying today.Oh fuck this. I have deets on MTR.
I'm pretty sure the entire house is not all town. Would not be shocked if 2 of them are scum.
I'm not quite willing to commit to that. I agree that with three of us we *could* all be town. But to reiterate, I've been the most on the fence about you. Nothing I can put my finger on so that's why I haven't outright put you on my Sus list. But at the same time, I'm seeing lots of interaction from you to defend yourself, and Future, but not much by way of solving or identifying where else we should be looking.with only 3 of us playing I feel that increases chance of us all being town which has happened and leaning that way currently
Really? Claws is the one person that I'm 100% on being town. He's the only read I have that I haven't questioned umpteen times.I have trouble reading claws as I have stated a lot because has fooled me too many times when I was convinced he was town and he was scum.
That's interesting. I would need to ISO to validate but I have felt a bit like you've been bouncing around between House members since D1 (with varying levels of reasoning). To me, its almost seemed like you were trying to take temperatures to see where you may be able to lay seeds for a mislynch.
Quoted for posterity….again.Like I said, you'll have to convince me to vote him. I'm waiting.
Unfortunately you're only willing to parrot Listo and vote 'because MTR lol' Give me something to work with!
I like this post, mainly becuase most of the work has been done for me. And when reads are difficult, and dees have not been forthcoming, vote patterns usually provide some clarity.
I've talked before about the speed of the Morrison yeet, and six votes in 11 posts. I've seen something similar in the past scum jumped on a couple of errant votes and railroaded the last couple of day phases almost without competition to victory. As a non playing bystander, it was impressively synchronised. And I believe Tildey was one of the scum players that time.
Vote: Tildey
Cause Claws is such a wonderful person that he wanted to spread his loveliness to others. You should know this since you also are very lovely. Tildey needs the kindness cause she is not nice whatsoever.
Curious what kind of info.Oh fuck this. I have deets on MTR.
I have been completely convinced he was town when he was scum more than once so yeah I don't even try to read him anymore especially early in the game. I have stated this in like multiple gamesReally? Claws is the one person that I'm 100% on being town. He's the only read I have that I haven't questioned umpteen times.
Fair point. He really can't share. Wasn't really asking him to either though. Just saying I am curious since he is wrong.Hmmm not sure if he’d be allowed to share that MTR.
Im almost 100% claws is town. Only pause would be if he's 3p. His 3p play is similar to his town play.I have been completely convinced he was town when he was scum more than once so yeah I don't even try to read him anymore especially early in the game. I have stated this in like multiple games
lolLet us also take a brief moment to address Insaner:
- Encouraged 2 inactive yeets. Okay maybe that could be towny but…
- Called out CWE’s logic. Mayyybeee but
- Scumreading Listo…now I dunno.
Okay fine. Just trying to contribute to solving but apparently not allowed to when it’s you. Glad we’re clear on that.
I did not "call out CWE's logic"Okay fine. Just trying to contribute to solving but apparently not allowed to when it’s you. Glad we’re clear on that.![]()
Did Listo die and flip town or what?But naturally I have questions when Listo was one of your bottom reads. I don’t think that is unfair to ask why you felt that way.
I’m sorry, let me clarify.I did not "call out CWE's logic"
He never provided any logic
He just said "dees" and I said "bullshit"
Not much was used in that conversation
He’s confirmed dees on MTR.Did Listo die and flip town or what?
It doesn’t seem like a scum Listo move to me is my take. I find him generally a bit more theatrical as scum (eg Madame). I feel he’s playing it more straight here.I don't get why you'd jump to immediately town reading Listo for claiming deets on an already dying wolf (assuming MTR is indeed a wolf)
Still, CWE never presented said logic so there was none for me to call out.I’m sorry, let me clarify.
CWE earlier said he was sure his logic was 99% solid. He’s a strong town player who’s USUALLY (I’m not saying he’s infallible of course) right on these things. I am also curious tbf why it was not pushed further from his end other than that puzzle.
EBWOP yeah meant to put 90%. Typo my bad.Still, CWE never presented said logic so there was none for me to call out.
He also said 90% not 99%.
He also said that every single thing I posted except for one read as towny to him and he voted someone who wasn't me by the end of yesterday.
Yet so many people haven't wanted to vote him :DI don't get why you'd jump to immediately town reading Listo for claiming deets on an already dying wolf (assuming MTR is indeed a wolf)
I can see town Listo seeing Dreyski voting someone other than MTR and going fuck this shit I'm claiming.It doesn’t seem like a scum Listo move to me is my take. I find him generally a bit more theatrical as scum (eg Madame). I feel he’s playing it more straight here.
Fmpov MTR was extremely likely to die today with our confirmed villager Claws pushing hard for him and nobody trying to start a counter train.Yet so many people haven't wanted to vote him :D
Regardless it’s a bold move. I see it as towny wanting to get their info out just to make sure the yeet goes through. Maybe he thinks there’s a doc or something that can protect him. Claiming seems like an awful risk if MTR flips green.I can see town Listo seeing Dreyski voting someone other than MTR and going fuck this shit I'm claiming.
But I still think it wasn't exactly required to get MTR yeeted here.
No it really isn't a bold move to either:Regardless it’s a bold move. I see it as towny wanting to get their info out just to make sure the yeet goes through. Maybe he thinks there’s a doc or something that can protect him. Claiming seems like an awful risk if MTR flips green.
Well I’ll guess we’ll see how this shakes out.No it really isn't a bold move to either:
1) Claim the info you have truthfully
2) Seal the deal on a mafia partner who was probably gonna die anyway
Listo has been sitting on the MTR vote since he showed up D2... so he likely had deets from N1, but hadnt stated deets til today. At least looking at votes, is my assumption.I don't get why you'd jump to immediately town reading Listo for claiming deets on an already dying wolf (assuming MTR is indeed a wolf)
Either way, none of that clears you. As you claim to be now.Still, CWE never presented said logic so there was none for me to call out.
He also said 90% not 99%.
He also said that every single thing I posted except for one read as towny to him and he voted someone who wasn't me by the end of yesterday.
Why would he not share them on D2?Listo has been sitting on the MTR vote since he showed up D2... so he likely had deets from N1, but hadnt stated deets til today. At least looking at votes, is my assumption.
I'm not but it also doesn't condemn me.Either way, none of that clears you. As you claim to be now.
Nope. Got last night. Yesterday was purely for vote location.Listo has been sitting on the MTR vote since he showed up D2... so he likely had deets from N1, but hadnt stated deets til today. At least looking at votes, is my assumption.
Agreed it doesnt condemn you. Just stating the you are no more then a read one way or the other, and not mechanically cleared.I'm not but it also doesn't condemn me.
I wasn’t condemning you…I just had natural questions about your play given these events.I'm not but it also doesn't condemn me.
Fair. Was just going back and looking at votes. Felt like it could have been something.Nope. Got last night. Yesterday was purely for vote location.
He's stated its info from last night.Why would he not share them on D2?
Cheers.Nope. Got last night. Yesterday was purely for vote location.
As am I?Agreed it doesnt condemn you. Just stating the you are no more then a read one way or the other, and not mechanically cleared.
what are you trying to say here?As am I?
The only event I see is MTR has been outed as wolfI wasn’t condemning you…I just had natural questions about your play given these events.
That CWE's info doesn't condemn me.what are you trying to say here?
Ive agreed with you already that it didnt condemn you, but it also doesnt clear you...That CWE's info doesn't condemn me.
So the productive thing here would be to look at everyone's interactions with MTR to see who might be aligned/unaligned with him.The only event I see is MTR has been outed as wolf
I never said it clears me.Ive agreed with you already that it didnt condemn you, but it also doesnt clear you...
I was meaning more in a “How do you read Listo now” way but you’ve already shared those so fair enough.The only event I see is MTR has been outed as wolf
More then a little stretch there...So the productive thing here would be to look at everyone's interactions with MTR to see who might be aligned/unaligned with him.
To save you some trouble:
I was somewhat suspicious of MTR on d1 and then eased off on it on D2. Had him in my Poe but not in the bottom of that poe. Kinda started a counterwagon to him when MTR was at 2 votes and I started pushing Val.
I'll concede that it's not a good look for me.
Also BN has been an MTR apologist today I would say.
No, but youve just said "it doesnt condemn me" 3 times nowI never said it clears me.
NopeHe did say yesterday that he went to a wrestling show saturday and had another to goto sunday evening.
The fact he hasnt done/said anything today could be something. But not knowing his life, cant really tell one way or another
Still a far stretch there buddy...Nope
Because CWE's info really doesn't condemn me.No, but youve just said "it doesnt condemn me" 3 times now
Im not pushing you. Just saying nothing clears you. Your vote record and the "anyone but me (or future)" would be worth pushing more then the CWE stuff.Because CWE's info really doesn't condemn me.
If you think I am mafia, you should push me based on something other than that.
When you keep saying "It doesnt condemn me"... that feels like insinuating in cleared... not to mention you've essentially claimed to be cleared.Well, I was never insinuating that I should be cleared here so it just seemed like a random thing to say.
you may not have resorted to name calling... but i wouldnt exactly say reading you has been completely civilI feel like I have been the paragon of civility in this game. Do others feel differently?
Paragon of civilty?? well somebody has probably eaten a thesaurus for lunch lol.I feel like I have been the paragon of civility in this game. Do others feel differently?
I was just arguing the allegations levied against me.When you keep saying "It doesnt condemn me"... that feels like insinuating in cleared... not to mention you've essentially claimed to be cleared.
So if you keep saying 1, ill remind you the other is also true
What things did I say that you felt were rude?Paragon of civilty?? well somebody has probably eaten a thesaurus for lunch lol.
Only way to prove your guilt or innocents would be to lynch youI was just arguing the allegations levied against me.
Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
Oh no I never said it was rude….just found your “paragon of civility” line funny. It was not an actual indictment on your civility…just was a funny line is all.What things did I say that you felt were rude?
Cool.Ah I see, lol.
Well most of my knowledge of English comes from movies and books and such so I may know some words that aren't that commonly used by everyday speakers haha.
I think the closest interpretation of calling out logic might be you thinking he was tracker.Still, CWE never presented said logic so there was none for me to call out.
He also said 90% not 99%.
He also said that every single thing I posted except for one read as towny to him and he voted someone who wasn't me by the end of yesterday.
Pretty much along those lines yeah.I think the closest interpretation of calling out logic might be you thinking he was tracker.
I don't want to be pedantic about what "calling out" means. But that might be what is being referenced.
Nah, MTR pretty much repeated what he already said previously that he town read myself, Xanjori and Future and promised he'll do later.I don't see why listo would fake dees on a bad mtr lynch. Unless I am greatly missing something, because why would you fake right now?
Good job listo.
Assuming this is all on the up and up, the nice thing is listo waited, and mtr's defenses are probably pretty telling.
Vote: mtr