kiss mafia

[rock meets hard place]

LemonDemonGirl(3)-Dreyski, Nightingale, Satsu
ForgottenHold(2)-Val the Moofia Boss, MTR
Satsu(1)PsychoSoldier
Claws(1)-Blind Ninja
Mazer(1)-Claws
No Lynch(1)-3puppies
Val the Moofia Boss(1)-ForgottenHold
DivaSmurf(1)-CWE


not voting: VoidKitten, DivaSmurf, LemonDemonGirl, Mazer

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.

deadline counter

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Fine.
Vote: LDG

 

[MTR]

You don't have to just give up.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Unvote:
Vote: LDG

If you're gonna not actively participate and vote yourself... I dont see why I shouldnt

 

[rock meets hard place]

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.

I was under the impression that this would have made it clear that 8 votes were how a lynch would be achieved and I didn't think it was necessary to spell out that this was a majority only mechanic. I'm sorry if this has caused any confusion. About 14 hours are left in the day phase.

 

[Claws]

Unvote:
Vote: ldg

How sour.
get it sour lemon lololol

 

[Claws]

L2 but i wouldnt bat an eye

 

[Mazer]

I was under the impression that this would have made it clear that 8 votes were how a lynch would be achieved and I didn't think it was necessary to spell out that this was a majority only mechanic. I'm sorry if this has caused any confusion. About 14 hours are left in the day phase.

That was the way I read it, but thank your for clarifying.

 

[Mazer]

Vote: sleep

I'll try to check in. If we need a hammer, I'm willing to. But right now, this gives us nothing information wise, and also because I'm amenable to her changing her mind on her own behalf
.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Been a busy couple days, gonna be catching up before the deadline hits

 

[PsychoSoldier]

That actually didn't take too long

Not sure I'm fond of the LDG train. Not only is it now officially under Abbi's Law, it definitely built up way quicker than any of the other wagons which doesn't sit quite right. Likely scum there, and if so, likely scum in the other wagons that got to two votes and stalled out.

I can kinda see Foxxi's vote hopping as coming from a town perspective. I wasn't too into the way she voted Void, but I also think the more erratic and questionable she posts/votes without any justification, the more likely she's not scum. I think she tries to seem a little more reasonable/make up reasoning for her votes when she's scum.

Satsu just trying to get other people to build up wagons before hopping on, presumably to use Abbi's Law to condemn someone, feels slimy to me. Maybe confbias but nothing Satsu has posted has made me feel like moving my vote.

I think Mazer has been posting and trying to drive some content while also having fun, without really pointing fingers in any direction. Scum!Mazer is usually more suggestive. Maybe would be more concerned if any of the previous wagons do end up being scum.

Dreyski is the only vote on LDG I actually like, though not for the vote itself but more that Dreyski's posting comes off like town trying to brush up their skills like he talked about around the turn of the new year. Just has an invested energy that comes off as towny

 

[PsychoSoldier]

For those who don't trust in the LDG wagon, I'm calling for Satsu as a counter.

 

[MTR]

I am not a fan of this LDG train. I feel like she is town as she usually is and don't see the point of eliminating a known town. I guess we can get some info from the flip and the train but rather go another direction.

I am willing to follow Pyscho for now and do a counter train on Satsu.

Unvote:

Vote: Satsu

 

[rock meets hard place]

LemonDemonGirl(6)-Dreyski, Nightingale, Satsu, LemonDemonGirl, Blind Ninja, Claws
No Lynch(2)-3puppies, Mazer
Satsu(2)-PsychoSoldier, MTR
ForgottenHold(1)-Val the Moofia Boss
Val the Moofia Boss(1)-ForgottenHold
DivaSmurf(1)-CWE


not voting: VoidKitten, DivaSmurf

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.

deadline counter

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Unvote: ForgottenHold

Vote: Satsu

 

[Nightingale]

I'd vote satsu but then I'll look sus when LDG flips scum, so I'll sit here for now and look sus when satsu flips scum instead.

 

[Satsu]

At least I am a better counter train than sleep. More info to be gained here.

 

[Mazer]

It's important to have choices. They leave a legacy.

On one hand, you have the easy path. The one that few people will reject or question. It offers limited glory, but limited blame. It's your classic low ceiling/high floor scenario. It's a tale that everyone is ok with, but nobody's going to read it to their kids at night.

On the other hand, you have a higher risk path. Who knows if you can even get there? If you succeed, you're above the crowd. If you fail, you tumble all the way don the mountain,

And there's also a less typical story. It's not your beloved easy narrative. But numbers are the language that unite civilizations.



It all comes down to which story you choose.

 

[Satsu]

On the other hand, you have a higher risk path.

Do you think i am higer risk to town than LDG is?
Or do you think easy path is sleep?

 

[Mazer]

Do you think i am higer risk to town than LDG is?
Or do you think easy path is sleep?

I think you represent a lower floor and higher ceiling. If I was different than neutral about you right now, I might figure differently

I'm insomniac. Sleep doesn't represent the easier path. That's always a calculation and decision.

 

[Claws]

LAzy psycho saving a partner that would be spicy

 

[Satsu]

I was different than neutral about you right now, I might figure differently

I assure you i am not a neutral. I am town and before game ends you will know it and you will love it.

 

[Claws]

I feel its towns duty if ldg has already tossed the towel, she is not gunna help anyways and scum absolutly wont kill her now if she is town.

 

[Satsu]

LAzy psycho saving a partner that would be spicy

Yeah that psycho post. Its just d1 right? He cant be so bad.

 

[Mazer]

I assure you i am not a neutral. I am town and before game ends you will know it and you will love it.

I wasn't thinking you were a tweener. I'm comfortable that you're a heel or a face. I'm just neutral on my read of which you are.


But I will admit, this is a good teaser for your story.

 

[Claws]

Yeah that psycho post. Its just d1 right? He cant be so bad.

Depends how busy psycho is

 

[Satsu]

He died n1 last game and i already made my mind on today so whatever

 

[PsychoSoldier]

LAzy psycho saving a partner that would be spicy

 

[PsychoSoldier]

He died n1 last game and i already made my mind on today so whatever

If you have suspicion of me, you should vote on it, not give me a d1 pass.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I wasn't thinking you were a tweener. I'm comfortable that you're a heel or a face. I'm just neutral on my read of which you are.


But I will admit, this is a good teaser for your story.

Do you have an actual preference for who you prefer?

 

[Mazer]

You've been relegated. The main event isn't about you anymore.

 

[Nightingale]

He wants to take a nap. Poor old guy, no stamina.

 

[Claws]

 

[Claws]

He wants to take a nap. Poor old guy, no stamina.

Thats mtr not psycho

 

[Nightingale]

I meant Mazer =p

 

[Claws]

I meant Mazer =p

DOnt slander my lawyer

 

[Mazer]

Do you have an actual preference for who you prefer?

Sleep.

I find the LDG train kinda meaningless. If she honestly left, she's likely to be modkilled. And if it wasn't LDG, who we've already have well-worn biases for, I would give at least some more curiousity around an early train. But there's too many mitigating factors here. I also think she's MILDLY more likely to just leave as town, and I haven't really seen anyone make a real accusatory effort.

I'm always glad to see a counter train, but again....this one is based off a train that I see as having less significance, and so I would only get excited about it if I had reason to be over 50/50 that Satsu was scum. And it's still fairly easy to write off.

As it is, I see these trains as having less info than expected, and I can't really get to a 50/50 threshold. So I think there's probably a greater chance of a missed shot that doesn't give us much info.

If you see where I'm neglecting potential information, I'm open to the discussion.

It's a foolish author who only submits one draft.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

LAzy psycho saving a partner that would be spicy

Do you actually believe LDG is scum that strongly?

 

[Mazer]

He wants to take a nap. Poor old guy, no stamina.

This reminds me of the time I journeyed to Cairo with my nurse-Florence, my attorney Matthew Murdoch, and Matt Groening. There were many mysteries there.

 

[Mazer]

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Sleep.

I find the LDG train kinda meaningless. If she honestly left, she's likely to be modkilled. And if it wasn't LDG, who we've already have well-worn biases for, I would give at least some more curiousity around an early train. But there's too many mitigating factors here. I also think she's MILDLY more likely to just leave as town, and I haven't really seen anyone make a real accusatory effort.

I'm always glad to see a counter train, but again....this one is based off a train that I see as having less significance, and so I would only get excited about it if I had reason to be over 50/50 that Satsu was scum. And it's still fairly easy to write off.

As it is, I see these trains as having less info than expected, and I can't really get to a 50/50 threshold. So I think there's probably a greater chance of a missed shot that doesn't give us much info.

If you see where I'm neglecting potential information, I'm open to the discussion.

It's a foolish author who only submits one draft.

For me, it's a lot about the way Satsu has been trying to force someone into the Abbi's Law dichotomy and just sort of emptily pushing for a chop without seeming to have any actual investment in WHO he wants chopped. The flip onto LDG was kind of the final straw for me, but I do also think regardless of previous bias, the pile-on to LDG has likely swept up at least one scum in there.

I disagree that these trains will have less info if one of them is on scum. But I guess you're argument is that there's not enough info pointing to either of them as scum, hence why these counter wagons aren't up to snuff in your mind?

I also care less about there being competing wagons and more about pushing for someone I think has better odds of being scum so far.

Clearly you prefer sleep, but is there anyone you have at closer to 50% than Satsu?

 

[Satsu]

If you have suspicion of me, you should vote on it, not give me a d1 pass.

I know but there are rules i follow from my first game. D2 comming soon.

 

[Satsu]

For me, it's a lot about the way Satsu has been trying to force someone into the Abbi's Law dichotomy and just sort of emptily pushing for a chop without seeming to have any actual investment in WHO he wants chopped.

Yes i was trying things many diffent things.

Hard to believe i am the one trying to do things on d1. Just sad.

 

[Satsu]

Do you actually believe LDG is scum that strongly?

Doesnt matter is she has town or scum on her rolecard.

She isnt going to be town in other metric.

If you want to take an easy route dont hammer before 2 hours till deadline or so.

I want to see if she does something.

 

[Blind Ninja]

How about this... If you are willing to vote LDG out, vote me.

I dont want to play if we constantly give someone a pass that doesnt do much, if anything, to progress it. The random 1 liners here and there that people say spew her clean, dont help. Then when we get to the endgame, if there is a scum thats always been friendly to her, that can easily sway the vote against town.

We never lynch her. We never lynch her early. Hell, she really only dies in game when scum get bored and kill her instead of noisy town.


And @Mazer were you one cautioning against discussing how/when a mod would kill in one of your games? (or was that badger). Why now would we be willing to let the mod remove someone when its our duty to do it, provided they arent advancing the game forward.

 

[Satsu]

I suppose you mean not willing to vote ldg?

 

[Blind Ninja]

yeah sure... Vote LDG or me is the point.

Because if we are going to let someone get away with actively not playing, I dont want to be here

 

[Blind Ninja]

I will straight up say that im in a neighborhood with 3 other people... which likely means 1 of those 3 is scum. Because I cant see a mod putting 4 town neighbors in a thread.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I will not name the 3 ppl in there, but LDG isnt one of them. I just dont want to let someone afk their way to endgame, again

 

[Mazer]

How about this... If you are willing to vote LDG out, vote me.

I dont want to play if we constantly give someone a pass that doesnt do much, if anything, to progress it. The random 1 liners here and there that people say spew her clean, dont help. Then when we get to the endgame, if there is a scum thats always been friendly to her, that can easily sway the vote against town.

We never lynch her. We never lynch her early. Hell, she really only dies in game when scum get bored and kill her instead of noisy town.


And @Mazer were you one cautioning against discussing how/when a mod would kill in one of your games? (or was that badger). Why now would we be willing to let the mod remove someone when its our duty to do it, provided they arent advancing the game forward.

Don't think that was me. The only time I can think of something similar was me warning about overdiscussing if I killed someone for breadcrumbing or roleclaiming. That's a different thing though.

I've always allowed people to discuss actual game mechanics. I wouldn't understand how to play most games without mechanic discussions.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Don't think that was me. The only time I can think of something similar was me warning about overdiscussing if I killed someone for breadcrumbing or roleclaiming. That's a different thing though.

I've always allowed people to discuss actual game mechanics. I wouldn't understand how to play most games without mechanic discussions.

Modkills arent a general game mechanic though... and why rely on the mod to remove people when that is the players duty to solve the game.

 

[Satsu]

Vk has 1 post so he will get shot.

Imagine being so bad you need to get shot

 

[Mazer]

Modkills arent a general game mechanic though... and why rely on the mod to remove people when that is the players duty to solve the game.

If I think it's solving, I agree. Perhaps we see our "duty" differently?

I've already said why I think this is a low probability play. Look, I'm not arguing with you if you want to talk about removing a lower participation player. I just don't see the point if it gives me nothing really to go off of, takes scum 1 place closer to control earlier, and its likely that someone else will do it.

You and claws have mentioned duty. I guess I see my duty as playing the best way to win vs. having to personally remove a player for something that I don't like that has little utility. It's not as if I imagine LDG is going to come back and in completely dominate the thread on a bad lynch.

I have 3 duties:

1. Play to procure a win
2. Finish the Story
3. Please the booty

 

[MTR]

I understand the frustration of someone not active and maybe not doing actions but to me that is the mod's place to handle that. I don't want to knowingly take out a town person and help scum get the numbers they need if I can be trying to actively solve and maybe taking out a scum.

 

[Satsu]

I understand the frustration of someone not active and maybe not doing actions but to me that is the mod's place to handle that

Yes it was mods place. in signup thread. And now need to waste time to clean up a mess.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I understand the frustration of someone not active and maybe not doing actions but to me that is the mod's place to handle that. I don't want to knowingly take out a town person and help scum get the numbers they need if I can be trying to actively solve and maybe taking out a scum.

I agree, its the mods place to handle, BEFORE the game. During the game, its the players. Modkills werent typically for activity, when they were used.

 

[DivaSmurf]

Yup. If you wanna tell us you're the cop you totally can. It's the wild west out here.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Yes it was mods place. in signup thread. And now need to waste time to clean up a mess.

100% this. We know who is and isnt an active player.

 

[DivaSmurf]

Read any good books lately?

I’m currently reading hobbit and going to continue on to the Lord of the Rings books after

 

[Claws]

Sleep.

I find the LDG train kinda meaningless. If she honestly left, she's likely to be modkilled. And if it wasn't LDG, who we've already have well-worn biases for, I would give at least some more curiousity around an early train. But there's too many mitigating factors here. I also think she's MILDLY more likely to just leave as town, and I haven't really seen anyone make a real accusatory effort.

I'm always glad to see a counter train, but again....this one is based off a train that I see as having less significance, and so I would only get excited about it if I had reason to be over 50/50 that Satsu was scum. And it's still fairly easy to write off.

As it is, I see these trains as having less info than expected, and I can't really get to a 50/50 threshold. So I think there's probably a greater chance of a missed shot that doesn't give us much info.

If you see where I'm neglecting potential information, I'm open to the discussion.

It's a foolish author who only submits one draft.

100% she wont be mk and she wont be murdered by scum its day 1 if shes not willing to play. Oh shit fuck goodbye.

 

[DivaSmurf]

Why the fuck are we doing math? I am here to do mafia not math.

I’m loving the math

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I’m currently reading hobbit and going to continue on to the Lord of the Rings books after

Great books. I loved the last act of The Hobbit. Beware that the first 80 pages of Fellowship are pretty boring since it's about a party. Then they start hearing about rumors of wars and it begins picking up but it didn't become really engaging for me until they reached Bree and you realize that there are enemy spies everywhere and it's fantastic from then on.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

As for LDG, she's been playing for a few years so I'd expect her to be comfortable voting and getting voted by now. It is D1 though so we have nothing to go on (besides Blind Ninja being in a neighborhood) so I think she could be forgiven for not knowing what to do, but later on you could @ her for reads and thoughts on the topic of the day to get her to build patterns.

 

[Blind Ninja]

As for LDG, she's been playing for a few years so I'd expect her to be comfortable voting and getting voted by now. It is D1 though so we have nothing to go on (besides Blind Ninja being in a neighborhood) so I think she could be forgiven for not knowing what to do, but later on you could @ her for reads and thoughts on the topic of the day to get her to build patterns.

Thats all well and good. But 90% of the time you @ her to ask any questions, she ignores them or responds with something along the lines of "I forgot this game was going"

 

[MTR]

I agree, its the mods place to handle, BEFORE the game. During the game, its the players. Modkills werent typically for activity, when they were used.

I don't think we should feel the need to take out inactive players. Again mod's job. If we waste time taking out inactive players that tend to be town we are just helping scum by not focusing on solving and getting reads on players. Again I understand the frustration because I get extremely frustrated as well and try to not let it get to me.

If you guys want to take her out by all means. At least we get the flip but rather put focus elsewhere. We have this discussion all the time much like we have the day one discussion all the time. Lets just play and not worry about activity and let that get sorted out on its own later.

 

[DivaSmurf]

I was eating a bagel while catching up and I dropped it cream cheese side landed on the floor

 

[Blind Ninja]

I was eating a bagel while catching up and I dropped it cream cheese side landed on the floor

And thats what you get for dropping it

 

[Satsu]

I was eating a bagel while catching up and I dropped it cream cheese side landed on the floor

Thats awesome but you only need to meake 1 post every 33 horus or so :>

 

[3puppies]

LDG is always a tough read, but the fact that she seems to rand town much more than scum, and that she often isn't all that engaged in solving, does not have a bearing on how she randed this time.

For those that want to vote her for the sake of getting info, I am surprised that nobody came out to say they're voting her because she's been on the winning side for a couple games in row.

I don't feel great about anyone yet, and I don't think anyone should, because we simply don't have info. I tend to lean BN town for simply reporting that he's in a neighborhood with 4 others.

I am not in a neighborhood.

I was eating a bagel while catching up and I dropped it cream cheese side landed on the floor

Found your problem. Bagels are better with peanut butter. Cream cheese is best used for frosting, danish strips or better yet, cheesecakes.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I don't think we should feel the need to take out inactive players. Again mod's job. If we waste time taking out inactive players that tend to be town we are just helping scum by not focusing on solving and getting reads on players. Again I understand the frustration because I get extremely frustrated as well and try to not let it get to me.

If you guys want to take her out by all means. At least we get the flip but rather put focus elsewhere. We have this discussion all the time much like we have the day one discussion all the time. Lets just play and not worry about activity and let that get sorted out on its own later.

This just screams "Im lazy" and LDG is on my scum team from you.

Its the players job to solve the game. Not rely on the mod to have to come in and take actions. (for whatever reason)

If people cant be active in the game and contribute, they shouldnt be signing up.

Again, once the game has started, removing players DETRIMENTAL to to, is the games responsibility. Being inactive, hurts town.

 

[DivaSmurf]

Thats awesome but you only need to meake 1 post every 33 horus or so :>

i meant right now I was eating a bagel

 

[3puppies]

Removing any town, even an inactive town, hurts town, as scum need to get a majority.

I disagree that inactive town members do not help town as much as they potentially could and should, but don't forget that they are still part of the numbers we need.

 

[DivaSmurf]

Found your problem. Bagels are better with peanut butter. Cream cheese is best used for frosting, danish strips or better yet, cheesecakes.

I’ll fix that next time

 

[DivaSmurf]

Removing any town, even an inactive town, hurts town, as scum need to get a majority.

I disagree that inactive town members do not help town as much as they potentially could and should, but don't forget that they are still part of the numbers we need.

I agree with this, also to add on there’s always the potential she could submit actions this game if she has a town role with actions, I don’t think we should yet her day one

 

[3puppies]

Being overly hungry for a yeet on D1 where we don't have much info, usually results in a town loss.

I don't mean to overly defend anyone for lack of activity. I just don't see enough value in a yeet yet.

 

[MTR]

This just screams "Im lazy" and LDG is on my scum team from you.

Its the players job to solve the game. Not rely on the mod to have to come in and take actions. (for whatever reason)

If people cant be active in the game and contribute, they shouldnt be signing up.

Again, once the game has started, removing players DETRIMENTAL to to, is the games responsibility. Being inactive, hurts town.

I am lazy because I rather interact with the active people and get reads instead wasting time getting rid of a person not doing anything? Really? Come on. Do better. I am not disagreeing with you about if people are not going to be active then don't sign up and the frustration it causes. I also agree that it hurts town if they are not helping. However I am just going to focus on what I have in front of me and not get distracted by inactive players. I would rather scum hunt then just hand scum numbers by taking inactives out that are likely town and wasting a chance to take out a scum.

All this discussion right here is distracting us from the actual game and is just as frustrating as people being inactive to me.

 

[Satsu]

Removing any town, even an inactive town, hurts town, as scum need to get a majority.

And there is no easiwr way to vote mabe town that is self voting. Thata the poinr

 

[MTR]

Being overly hungry for a yeet on D1 where we don't have much info, usually results in a town loss.

I don't mean to overly defend anyone for lack of activity. I just don't see enough value in a yeet yet.

Normally I am right there with you but I get the feeling we are not going to get the write ups that a lot of us are used to so I am okay with yeeting someone day one and trying to get what info we can from that flip and train analysis.

 

[Satsu]

You are learning fast. You would make a great student on mafia 101

 

[3puppies]

And for anyone that cares, I know that I swore that I would not lead a D1 sleep train after I got killed for it in my first game ever. I am taking the risk that our mod is not a bastard and that this game is keeping it simple for me.

I would rather wait a day, and see what if anything the write up gives us, before we ack recklessly.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Removing any town, even an inactive town, hurts town, as scum need to get a majority.

I disagree that inactive town members do not help town as much as they potentially could and should, but don't forget that they are still part of the numbers we need.

Lets say that LDG is hypothetically town that just adds 2 posts a day, but doesnt help solve or hinder scum in any way... Now scum will just cut out the active members of town, leaving us with fewer and fewer people that are actively engaging. An inactive town is basically scum, since they wont remove that person and that person isnt coming solving.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Being overly hungry for a yeet on D1 where we don't have much info, usually results in a town loss.

I don't mean to overly defend anyone for lack of activity. I just don't see enough value in a yeet yet.

getting no yeet on d1... and no information in the writeup doesnt help town either.

town cannot win without yeets. and an inactive town hurts town in the end.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I am lazy because I rather interact with the active people and get reads instead wasting time getting rid of a person not doing anything? Really? Come on. Do better. I am not disagreeing with you about if people are not going to be active then don't sign up and the frustration it causes. I also agree that it hurts town if they are not helping. However I am just going to focus on what I have in front of me and not get distracted by inactive players. I would rather scum hunt then just hand scum numbers by taking inactives out that are likely town and wasting a chance to take out a scum.

All this discussion right here is distracting us from the actual game and is just as frustrating as people being inactive to me.

Well... the inactive person is in the game... but discussing the inactive person is distracting you from the game?

Instead of saying how this is distracting, want to add anything else that isnt about this lone topic?

 

[Claws]

You all waste so much time its d1 sum1 should go over so what its ldg every1 goes over d1 at somepoint

 

[Claws]

Bunch of fucking nannys

 

[MTR]

Lets say that LDG is hypothetically town that just adds 2 posts a day, but doesnt help solve or hinder scum in any way... Now scum will just cut out the active members of town, leaving us with fewer and fewer people that are actively engaging. An inactive town is basically scum, since they wont remove that person and that person isnt coming solving.

I understand this logic and this goes back to hoping the game runner takes care of the inactives by subs are getting rid of them early on before we get to this point.

 

[Claws]

The fact that ldg just said fone and self voted instead of throwing a fit like she usually does seems telling to me

 

[MTR]

Well... the inactive person is in the game... but discussing the inactive person is distracting you from the game?

Instead of saying how this is distracting, want to add anything else that isnt about this lone topic?

This seems to be the currently topic of discussion so going with it. Not like this is the only thing I have talked about this day phase.

 

[3puppies]

getting no yeet on d1... and no information in the writeup doesnt help town either.

town cannot win without yeets. and an inactive town hurts town in the end.

Are you intentionally missing the distinction between a town yeet and a scum yeet? A town yeet of an inactive town makes scum one step closer to their majority.

Town can - and has - won plenty of times by refusing to yeet on D1 when we have no information. Don't make it seem like we're setting up an impossible task for ourselves.

I don't know how you can say for sure what the writeups will or won't have.

I am not suggesting that town should never yeet anyone in the phases to come. Isn't it just as likely that we will either get info from a writeup, or from someone sharing deets, than not?

 

[Claws]

This seems to be the currently topic of discussion so going with it. Not like this is the only thing I have talked about this day phase.

You act like shes gunna be afk she wont be mk she will pop in and out to say 1 thing

 

[MTR]

The fact that ldg just said fone and self voted instead of throwing a fit like she usually does seems telling to me

That is what she tends to do though. Says fuck it or fine or whatever and self votes. She really hasn't thrown a fit that I can remember in a while.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I understand this logic and this goes back to hoping the game runner takes care of the inactives by subs are getting rid of them early on before we get to this point.

This also comes back to, ONCE the game starts, Its the players responsibility to solve and remove people... Not the mods.

 

[Mazer]

The fact that ldg just said fone and self voted instead of throwing a fit like she usually does seems telling to me

Telling as far as you think she's scum?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Are you intentionally missing the distinction between a town yeet and a scum yeet? A town yeet of an inactive town makes scum one step closer to their majority.

Town can - and has - won plenty of times by refusing to yeet on D1 when we have no information. Don't make it seem like we're setting up an impossible task for ourselves.

I don't know how you can say for sure what the writeups will or won't have.

I am not suggesting that town should never yeet anyone in the phases to come. Isn't it just as likely that we will either get info from a writeup, or from someone sharing deets, than not?

I HIGHLY doubt we will have massive detailed writeups full of information. If you are refusing to yeet someone today, why not toss in the towel and not yeet all game. A day 1 yeet will provide information and providde some catalyst for d2, provided nothing too telling comes from n1 actions.

Not to mention, we dont know if LDG is scum or town. So hard to say which way this yeet will land til it happens

 

[Claws]

That is what she tends to do though. Says fuck it or fine or whatever and self votes. She really hasn't thrown a fit that I can remember in a while.

She never just concedes

 

[Mazer]

Are you intentionally missing the distinction between a town yeet and a scum yeet? A town yeet of an inactive town makes scum one step closer to their majority.

Town can - and has - won plenty of times by refusing to yeet on D1 when we have no information. Don't make it seem like we're setting up an impossible task for ourselves.

I don't know how you can say for sure what the writeups will or won't have.

I am not suggesting that town should never yeet anyone in the phases to come. Isn't it just as likely that we will either get info from a writeup, or from someone sharing deets, than not?

While I do not share Blind Ninja's opinion that removing anyone that does not play is the sole and exclusive responsibility of the players, and that to consider a game mechanic is sign of moral delinquency and dereliction in out mandate to defend the sacred timeline....

I do have enough familiarity with different game styles and statements that Rock has made that make me strongly agree that there is very little chance we're getting much more than non-action related narrative and the name of the person who died from the write-ups. I think Blind Ninja is genuine in what he's projecting.

 

[MTR]

Are you intentionally missing the distinction between a town yeet and a scum yeet? A town yeet of an inactive town makes scum one step closer to their majority.

Town can - and has - won plenty of times by refusing to yeet on D1 when we have no information. Don't make it seem like we're setting up an impossible task for ourselves.

I don't know how you can say for sure what the writeups will or won't have.

I am not suggesting that town should never yeet anyone in the phases to come. Isn't it just as likely that we will either get info from a writeup, or from someone sharing deets, than not?

Going off my role card and that he said he was trying to do a more traditional game prior to this game that only info we get from the write up is the death and then wait and see if people share info or make claims. I could be wrong and we won't know for sure until the first write up. So that makes me get on the yeet someone day 1 train instead of sleep train.

 

[MTR]

She never just concedes

yeah she does

 

[Mazer]

On the topic of people that are not LDG, I don't hate Satsu's response to Psych's pressure. A question is whether a scum psych would feel the need to do anything different when there was already a train on LDG.

 

[Claws]

yeah she does

Ive been playing far longer with her then you i think i know