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This also comes back to, ONCE the game starts, Its the players responsibility to solve and remove people... Not the mods.
I am done with this discussion beyond having it outside of the game after the game. We are not completely disagreeing on everything except this point. We are just going in circles at this point on whether it is the players responsibility to deal with inactives or not and I am over it and this is not productive.
 
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No Lynch(2)-3puppies, Mazer
Val the Moofia Boss(1)-ForgottenHold
DivaSmurf(1)-CWE


not voting: VoidKitten, DivaSmurf

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.

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Ive been playing far longer with her then you i think i know
I understand that but at this point I have played with her quite a bit and more recent history that I can remember she tends to either OMGUS or just say fuck it and self vote.
 

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Mmhm generally shes more dramatic as town
I haven't played with her as long as many, but I feel like I've seen the "if you want to kill me, do it" when she's been town. Maybe there's more of a tendency here that I'm not seeing?
 

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I don't think we are going to get another train up this close so I am willing to switch to LDG just to be sure we get a yeet off even I don't like it.
 

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I don't think we are going to get another train up this close so I am willing to switch to LDG just to be sure we get a yeet off even I don't like it.
If you dont want to discuss LDG and dont really like the train... where do you want the discussion to go? Youve had opportunity to redirect the conversation, but didnt.
 

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I don't think we are going to get another train up this close so I am willing to switch to LDG just to be sure we get a yeet off even I don't like it.
I didnt get what i hoped for from ldg.

Looks like town in the end. Maybe...

Yeet anyway
 

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Vk has 1 post so he will get shot.

Imagine being so bad you need to get shot
I've no evidence of this but hear me out, is it possible VK started the game with a silence restriction? I'm just glad it's not Badger with another gif restrction.

I don't know how you can say for sure what the writeups will or won't have.
It's just assuming, but based on the intro, we'll get dead player flips and no actions. K.I.S.S. could refer to the writeups, the scenario, the roles (although a four person (mafia?)) neighbourhood is going against that) or any combination of that.

I will say I voted LDG as a pure random, I didn't expect the train to gain quite so much traction
 

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If you dont want to discuss LDG and dont really like the train... where do you want the discussion to go? Youve had opportunity to redirect the conversation, but didnt.
I started off by voting Satsu instead of LDG but that discussion went no where. I didn't really have anywhere else to go so was going along with the various discussions going on until they got frustrating. So don't keep acting like I have only discussed one thing during this phase.

Either way got too much else to do before I leave work which is after the end of the day phase so switching votes and lets see if we get any info out of it and of course make you happy since you constantly hate that she plays anyway.

Unvote:

Vote: LDG
 

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I've already stated where I don't have the belief on this being profitable. I may be inclined to hammer, because I'm not sure people have the discipline to not spend all their efforts on anyone else.

I tried to at least get some engagement on Psych, a veritable lightning rod of interest most games, and it was largely ignored so an ongoing debate about responsibility could continue.

Except for Claws. Claws actually seems to have a genuine take. Which I like. Which probably means he's about to kill me.


So I guess I'll fucking hammer if this is the way we're going and all we can get out of it.
 

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I started off by voting Satsu instead of LDG but that discussion went no where. I didn't really have anywhere else to go so was going along with the various discussions going on until they got frustrating. So don't keep acting like I have only discussed one thing during this phase.

Either way got too much else to do before I leave work which is after the end of the day phase so switching votes and lets see if we get any info out of it and of course make you happy since you constantly hate that she plays anyway.

Unvote:

Vote: LDG
It wasnt that there werent other discussions... it was that you said you didnt want to discuss LDG, but then didnt change the topic. Basically said I dont want to talk about this. You could have changed to topic and brought the discussion elsewhere, but you didnt.
 

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15 minutes left or so?

Anyone else want to opine about responsibility?

Is Uncle Ben here to chime in?


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LemonDemonGirl(8)-Dreyski, Nightingale, Satsu, LemonDemonGirl, Blind Ninja, Claws ,MTR, Mazer
Satsu(2)-PsychoSoldier, Val the Moofia Boss
No Lynch(2)-3puppies, DivaSmurf
Val the Moofia Boss(1)-ForgottenHold
DivaSmurf(1)-CWE


not voting: VoidKitten

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.

LemonDemonGirl has been lynched. She was a miller.

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Satsu has died night 1. He was a town watcher.


not voting: Nightingale, Claws, CWE, PsychoSoldier, MTR, Dreyski, Val the Moofia Boss, VoidKitten, 3puppies, DivaSmurf, Mazer, Blind Ninja, ForgottenHold

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or no lynch.

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Because of the insistence on voting someone town out. Even though LDG wouldn't have done much to help solve, the town numbers are down 1.

Also, let me put the following out there.

MTR didn't feel great to me, as I got the vibe that he almost tried too hard to sound conflicted about voting LDG. I got a not guilty result on him, so he is clean unless Rock made him a godfather - which I doubt, because in a game without writeup details, I doubt. Then again, he made LDG a miller, so had she not died, if she'd been investigated she would have come back guilty.

I am also a bit sus on Mazer for hammering.

I realize that I am making myself a target, so I am hoping that I get protection before scum takes me out. Town has to share what we have learned, if anything
 

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Satsu is interesting.

We've had a few things revealed now with deaths and claims. So, the probability vise is tightening.

Voidkitten being absent is NAI to me. Basically has to be real life, as he loves town and scum roles. But it's a huge hole in the interconnectivity reads. I would like to hear more from Diva, as I have some concern there.
 

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Because of the insistence on voting someone town out. Even though LDG wouldn't have done much to help solve, the town numbers are down 1.

Also, let me put the following out there.

MTR didn't feel great to me, as I got the vibe that he almost tried too hard to sound conflicted about voting LDG. I got a not guilty result on him, so he is clean unless Rock made him a godfather - which I doubt, because in a game without writeup details, I doubt. Then again, he made LDG a miller, so had she not died, if she'd been investigated she would have come back guilty.

I am also a bit sus on Mazer for hammering.

I realize that I am making myself a target, so I am hoping that I get protection before scum takes me out. Town has to share what we have learned, if anything
Part of me is pinged by Ninja but not because of his insistence of voting LDG. But not enough to vote for him right off the bat. Can't quite put my finger on why he feels off to me. Plus I don't want to look like I am just going after him because of our interaction at end of day.

I am not a godfather. I am clean like your result says.

I am not sus on Mazer for the hammer. He said he would hammer earlier in the phase unless I am remembering wrong. I can look back later. I have to go switch libraries and drive in the snow. Go me. Not saying Mazer is clean but I wouldn't sus him for the hammer.
 

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Satsu is interesting.

We've had a few things revealed now with deaths and claims. So, the probability vise is tightening.

Voidkitten being absent is NAI to me. Basically has to be real life, as he loves town and scum roles. But it's a huge hole in the interconnectivity reads. I would like to hear more from Diva, as I have some concern there.
I was not expecting Satsu for sure.

Yeah Void said he had something going on I believe so he should be around soon I hope.

Yeah was thinking same thing. I want to hear more from Diva.
 

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Because of the insistence on voting someone town out. Even though LDG wouldn't have done much to help solve, the town numbers are down 1.

Also, let me put the following out there.

MTR didn't feel great to me, as I got the vibe that he almost tried too hard to sound conflicted about voting LDG. I got a not guilty result on him, so he is clean unless Rock made him a godfather - which I doubt, because in a game without writeup details, I doubt. Then again, he made LDG a miller, so had she not died, if she'd been investigated she would have come back guilty.

I am also a bit sus on Mazer for hammering.

I realize that I am making myself a target, so I am hoping that I get protection before scum takes me out. Town has to share what we have learned, if anything

While I would expect that there was likely some spread yesterday, I think mtr likely had some genuine consternation about voting LDG. Some people were doing their duty, I guess. But it definitely could genuinely not feel great to vote LDG for lack of participation after she was frustrated. I'm not intending to waste another day debating that, but suffice it to say some people are going to "feel" very differently about that.

I mention this, because while I don't think the absence of write-ups is a good reason to preclude the possibility of a gf, which is often standard in games without Rajah style write-ups, I would not really suspect mtr of being the godfather.

I would tend to think Blind Ninja would be more reserved on his general frustrations and pushes on LDG as scum. He brings her up every game, so I don't process it the same as I would a generic bad kill (part of the reason yesterday frustrates). I could be wrong, but that felt a little more like town BN.

It might be good for Futuramahold to give his take on Diva. And anyone else he wants.
 

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Foxxi voting BN, and Val voting Dryski, with no reasons provided makes me wonder if either has deets, and didn't want to put it out there to make themselves a target
 

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One of the votes may be because of deets but hard to tell right off the bat.
 

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A good thing to then might be to get some conversation around people that they might think, and then see how they want to play it. Some people like to fish and some people might like to go through.

Probably not all dees, but someone might want to be subtle.

I'm still wanting to get some conversation around reads of diva. Dees would be great. Like someone like futurehold or dreyski. I'd love to know what they thought. Hell, maybe psych.

CWE is likely to just tell me none of my business, unless he wants to.
 

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Thanks im not selling myself on it really im more thinkin a mazer fox psycho mega colation team
Always the mega coalition with you these days. lol. You're like one of those people who say Taylor Swift is ruining football with her 35 seconds of cut away, and then post 20 times about Taylor Swift.

On a more serious note, this does remind me once again of my trip to Cairo. A nurse is always fairly transparent, even if you're not medically trained. And Murdoch is catholic. So you can usually tell what he's feeling. Ultimately, I really was concerned about Groening's later work, as the Simpsons was his apex.
 

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Always the mega coalition with you these days. lol. You're like one of those people who say Taylor Swift is ruining football with her 35 seconds of cut away, and then post 20 times about Taylor Swift.

On a more serious note, this does remind me once again of my trip to Cairo. A nurse is always fairly transparent, even if you're not medically trained. And Murdoch is catholic. So you can usually tell what he's feeling. Ultimately, I really was concerned about Groening's later work, as the Simpsons was his apex.
I enjoyed disenchanted immensely
 

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I have shared what I can. Since we have a long holiday weekend coming up, I won't be around much until Tuesday AM, save for maybe a brief moment or two late at night

But I will
Vote: unvote
Vote: Vote Claws because of the not liking Taylor Swift comment.
 

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I am not sus on Mazer for the hammer. He said he would hammer earlier in the phase unless I am remembering wrong. I can look back later. I have to go switch libraries and drive in the snow. Go me. Not saying Mazer is clean but I wouldn't sus him for the hammer.

I dunno. Mazer is way better at this game than I am. He is skilled and seasoned enough to predict needing to hammer, and if he is scum, I could easily see him telling his scum team that he would hammer. When he said earlier in the phase he could hammer, I think he could have been trying to set up believability. Then again, everyone else in this game has played a LOT more than I have so at this point, you're the only one I trust because of my result.

I would normally want to trust CWE but he hasn't said he's clean - as I recall he just said kill him and find out. Didn't that ping anyone else?
 

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DivaSmurf(1)-CWE

Discounting myself, the names on the LDG train that catch me are BN, Claws and MTR
Away from that, 3pups and Diva voting for sleep/no lynch would be a good look when town was yate, unless they're bluffing and letting town do their work for them. Unfortunately, due to my role, I have no dees to share.
 

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Nah. Viagra is a wonderful thing.

Hope your Valentine's Day was spectacular.

Crap. I just noticed I meant to say "as spectacular as mine", as I was crowing - we got the medication dosage and timing right. I truly did not want to imply anything negative about your love life, despite your suggestion that mine was perhaps, unsatisfying to my bride of 30 years. I am a feminist after all, and I learned years ago to always be respectful to women.
 

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DivaSmurf(1)-CWE

Discounting myself, the names on the LDG train that catch me are BN, Claws and MTR
Away from that, 3pups and Diva voting for sleep/no lynch would be a good look when town was yate, unless they're bluffing and letting town do their work for them. Unfortunately, due to my role, I have no dees to share.
hell i just burned ldg as she gave up d1 for no reason i dont need that shit in my town
 

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Val the Moofia Boss(1)-ForgottenHold
DivaSmurf(1)-CWE

Discounting myself, the names on the LDG train that catch me are BN, Claws and MTR
Away from that, 3pups and Diva voting for sleep/no lynch would be a good look when town was yate, unless they're bluffing and letting town do their work for them. Unfortunately, due to my role, I have no dees to share.

Please recognize that I haven't cleared you, either. Your "Unfortunately due to my role ..." statement includes the possibility that your role is scum. But let's leave that alone for a day or two.

Since I cleared MTR, who do you think is more likely untrustworthy among BN and Claws?

I am back and forth - I first voted BN because of how hard he fought to get a lynch of a townie. I switched to Void because of process of elimination, and I love Taylor Swift.
 

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im a vt btw take it as it is i got tricked and thought it was a power game
 

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Val the Moofia Boss(1)-ForgottenHold
DivaSmurf(1)-CWE

Discounting myself, the names on the LDG train that catch me are BN, Claws and MTR
Away from that, 3pups and Diva voting for sleep/no lynch would be a good look when town was yate, unless they're bluffing and letting town do their work for them. Unfortunately, due to my role, I have no dees to share.
Do you have any other reads on diva and forgotten?
 

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This day has been a lot more about 3puppies' sex life than I anticipated.
 

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Please recognize that I haven't cleared you, either. Your "Unfortunately due to my role ..." statement includes the possibility that your role is scum. But let's leave that alone for a day or two.

Since I cleared MTR, who do you think is more likely untrustworthy among BN and Claws?

I am back and forth - I first voted BN because of how hard he fought to get a lynch of a townie. I switched to Void because of process of elimination, and I love Taylor Swift.
While I can agree that my insistence and push on LDG is a bad look, I still dont think removing a town that wouldnt participate is a bad move. Sure we went down 1 because of it, but nothing we cant come back from.

I will say, If I was scum, would I come out and say I was in a neighborhood with others? Would I freely give that information? Would I also straight up say lynch either her or me for D1? That isnt a gambit I make as scum.


Now that we've seen a Miller and Watcher roles flip... I doubt we have too many more power roles at hand. Cop since it was claimed and potentially a doc. With 1 kill seen, doubt scum has the ability to do much more. Likely a GF role and maybe a RB to counter cop/watcher/doc. Guessing its going to be more heavily skewed towards town... maybe 11-4 or 12-3 (off chance of 11-3-1)


I dont like the d2 vote swap based on someone's musical preference. What does that have to do with the game we are playing. If it was D1, sure, mess around with some joke votes like that, but dd2 after a couple flips when we can see how things progressed or stalled... feels fake
 

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And how the hell can you post multiple times today and get little things wrong... like who you voted.


Or who others voted that were only 3-5 posts above you
 

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@DivaSmurf @ForgottenHold @MTR How do you feel about your other house members?

Additionally for Diva, why didnt you comment yesterday on the direction of votes, aside from saying you dont think we should vote LDG. But had 3 posts about Bagels, a post about math, a post about books, a gif and work is busy.


@VoidKitten You coming back to us anytime soon? Would like to hear your take on game state.
 

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While I can agree that my insistence and push on LDG is a bad look, I still dont think removing a town that wouldnt participate is a bad move. Sure we went down 1 because of it, but nothing we cant come back from.

I will say, If I was scum, would I come out and say I was in a neighborhood with others? Would I freely give that information? Would I also straight up say lynch either her or me for D1? That isnt a gambit I make as scum.


Now that we've seen a Miller and Watcher roles flip... I doubt we have too many more power roles at hand. Cop since it was claimed and potentially a doc. With 1 kill seen, doubt scum has the ability to do much more. Likely a GF role and maybe a RB to counter cop/watcher/doc. Guessing its going to be more heavily skewed towards town... maybe 11-4 or 12-3 (off chance of 11-3-1)


I dont like the d2 vote swap based on someone's musical preference. What does that have to do with the game we are playing. If it was D1, sure, mess around with some joke votes like that, but dd2 after a couple flips when we can see how things progressed or stalled... feels fake

I kind of like a lot about this. Posting about your neighborhood in particular, and your suspicion that one of your group of 4 is untrustworthy. I don't understand not sharing who the other neighbors are, however. Town needs as much info as we can get. The straight up offer for us to lynch LDG or you actually did seem like a gamble a better player than I could pull off, though, especially since you know that quite a few players get annoyed by her play style, it wasn't that hard for her train to take off.

I get things wrong every game I play. I don't have anyone helping me.

I didn't see where the kill was seen, but if it was I am annoyed with whoever saw it for not sharing details. I'm happy if town wins, whether I last or not (and since I have shared info that cleared MTR, I am sure I won't last long).

Any thoughts on my CWE question?
 

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I kind of like a lot about this. Posting about your neighborhood in particular, and your suspicion that one of your group of 4 is untrustworthy. I don't understand not sharing who the other neighbors are, however. Town needs as much info as we can get. The straight up offer for us to lynch LDG or you actually did seem like a gamble a better player than I could pull off, though, especially since you know that quite a few players get annoyed by her play style, it wasn't that hard for her train to take off.

I get things wrong every game I play. I don't have anyone helping me.

I didn't see where the kill was seen, but if it was I am annoyed with whoever saw it for not sharing details. I'm happy if town wins, whether I last or not (and since I have shared info that cleared MTR, I am sure I won't last long).

Any thoughts on my CWE question?
Doubt it was seen, since the watcher was killed. Potential deets IF a tracker followed the killer to the target.... but highly doubt that.

As for CWE, there are people that know his style better and can shed light on it when he posts more. I dont feel like straight up asking him if he is good/bad is the way to go. He will be solved based on what he says.
 

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@Mazer

Any reason the LEADER of the ND1LC hammered on day 1?
:squint:
What did you do last night?
Is this trying to get another sex conversation going?


I kid. We have fun here.


Not a Rajah write-up game, and because there was no response to moving my conversation off LDG, as people seemed caught in a morality play, that narrative would have likely kept going. And added up there because was at least a base chance, seemed like the smartest play.

I blessed the rains down in Africa and took some time to do the things I never had.

How do you feel about diva last phase of d1?
 

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I would normally want to trust CWE but he hasn't said he's clean - as I recall he just said kill him and find out. Didn't that ping anyone else?
Then. Kill. Me. And. Find. Out.

I refuse to spell it out for people anymore. We ain't playing on easy mode anymore, people.

:dx:
 

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Then. Kill. Me. And. Find. Out.

I refuse to spell it out for people anymore. We ain't playing on easy mode anymore, people.

:dx:
Well, if you insist.
Unvote: Diva
Vote: CWE

Still happy to train Diva tho. We should totes train Diva.
 

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I go have a beer or 4 with some friends last night along with some fireball while setting up a pinewood derby and I come in this morning to see way more about 3puppies than I ever wanted to know. Now let me go back and respond to stuff.
 

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@DivaSmurf @ForgottenHold @MTR How do you feel about your other house members?

Additionally for Diva, why didnt you comment yesterday on the direction of votes, aside from saying you dont think we should vote LDG. But had 3 posts about Bagels, a post about math, a post about books, a gif and work is busy.


@VoidKitten You coming back to us anytime soon? Would like to hear your take on game state.
As much as I joke and what not early on any game we play about Future being scum, he is not really giving me scum vibes this game. I think somehow he has hit a town streak. I mean at this point I am not really completely clearing anyone except 3puppies but definitely leaning town on Future.

Now on to Diva. The post at the end of day one were just odd even for typical day one shit posting that happens with this crew. Especially since for the most part the conversation going on was serious discussion and despite the conversation about needing to do a yeet and not just sleep they voted sleep at the end. So I am pinged by all of that to be honest. I mean I get trying to get post in but just seemed off.
 

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I will try to be around during the day today if discussion but tonight back to drinking and racing wooden cars and drinking and then taking everything down we set up and did I mention drinking.

Normally I would wait until closer of the day phase to vote but going to go ahead and get a vote out there.

Vote: Diva
 

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Satsu getting killed makes me wonder if the other "wagons" that got 2 votes are innocent
 
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