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Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

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Jarrod1983 said:
I have no information. I assure everyone I'm not a threat in any way, shape or form. If people keep pushing on me make sure they get looked at if push comes to death. Not really adding because I have nothing to add but I wouldn't consider myself not active. Just behind on my reading. Everything I have read though, nothing has really stood out to me.

Anyone worried about my EoD last phase, I will just say I was at work and saw MTR was just one vote away from being officially pardoned. I pulled the trigger on it strictly for my own amusement of saving a life.
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I really, really don't trust this.
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Jarrod1983 said:
I have no information. I assure everyone I'm not a threat in any way, shape or form. If people keep pushing on me make sure they get looked at if push comes to death. Not really adding because I have nothing to add but I wouldn't consider myself not active. Just behind on my reading. Everything I have read though, nothing has really stood out to me.

Anyone worried about my EoD last phase, I will just say I was at work and saw MTR was just one vote away from being officially pardoned. I pulled the trigger on it strictly for my own amusement of saving a life.
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You have 2 posts all game... Given no opinions and have said "Im no threat"

Do something
 
Unvote: Jarrod

Dont like Claws... and now LDG. Want nothing to do with that train.

Just want Jarrod to actually get involved in the game.
 
I was working a double all day my apologies, pretty busy, we ran a Friday the thirteenth deal. But catching up before bed, glad I did lol, for real though please don’t kill me. I feel as though I have a handy role. I like it at least. I’m pretty confused but trying my best here. There’s been a lot of jumping around voting wise, I’m not sure if that’s normal for this game or not but I’m gonna go ahead and vote. I’ll check in tomorrow. Please don’t choose me.

Vote: Claws
 
Oh I forgot to mention on that comment Foxxi found odd from me. I stated that cause I’d rather be lynched as possible scum then NKd for knowledge of how this stuff works.
 
Kinda gotta agree that I dislike Claw's post asking why someone was defending Foxxi. I feel its pretty common that if being active in this game you will respond to questions, including highlighting information from another player. It feels like a super reach to make a big deal of it (atm at least.)
 
Vote Count:

3 - DivaSmurf (FutureHold #382, Badger #383, Foxxi #390)
2 - Xanjori (CWE #317, Val #331)
2 - Jarrod (Claws #385, LDG #401)
1 - CWE (Psycho #363)
1 - Claws (DivaSmurf #408

With 17 players alive, majority for nomination is 9 votes on a single player.
 
Vote Count:

3 - DivaSmurf (FutureHold #382, Badger #383, Foxxi #390)
3 - Jarrod (Claws #385, LDG #401, Matthieu #413)
2 - Xanjori (CWE #317, Val #331)
1 - CWE (Psycho #363)
1 - Claws (DivaSmurf #408

With 17 players alive, majority for nomination is 9 votes on a single player.
 
I’m still trying to think how we had 2 deaths. One was the NK (Possessor or Sorc), cult more than likely recruited last night. I’m honestly thinking there’s an alch going through all their emerald potions rq or maybe an Inquisitor going blasting. Reaper is possible as the NK if they used circle of death but I find it very unlikely.
 
Listo95 said:
I’m still trying to think how we had 2 deaths. One was the NK (Possessor or Sorc), cult more than likely recruited last night. I’m honestly thinking there’s an alch going through all their emerald potions rq or maybe an Inquisitor going blasting. Reaper is possible as the NK if they used circle of death but I find it very unlikely.
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.......first of all, why do you find reaper to be very unlikely? Secondly mr.knowledgebase - the alchemist can't even attack until N2.
 
FoxxiMcLeod said:
.......first of all, why do you find reaper to be very unlikely? Secondly mr.knowledgebase - the alchemist can't even attack until N2.
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To use Circle of Death the reaper has to use one of its souls. These souls protect the reaper from death, no souls they can be NKd. Also on the Alch I was not aware of that change. In the regular game the Alch can attack N1.
 
If I was the fool why would I let you keep talking about it? Wouldn’t it have made sense to put a restriction that makes it harder to continue saying that in thread?
 
Listo95 said:
To use Circle of Death the reaper has to use one of its souls. These souls protect the reaper from death, no souls they can be NKd. Also on the Alch I was not aware of that change. In the regular game the Alch can attack N1.
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Right, but they start with 2 souls, and circle only costs one soul. And if they choose someone who has a high probability of being a target of at least *one* person, then there is at least one death, and they will get the soul they spent back. If both of those deaths were to a reaper, they would actually come out with 3 souls... it doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. Nothing to confirm that's what happened as yet, but absolutely in the realm of possibility.
 
Listo95 said:
If I was the fool why would I let you keep talking about it? Wouldn’t it have made sense to put a restriction that makes it harder to continue saying that in thread?
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No. Because I've already said it, and restricting me at this point would only look more sus.
 
FoxxiMcLeod said:
Right, but they start with 2 souls, and circle only costs one soul. And if they choose someone who has a high probability of being a target of at least *one* person, then there is at least one death, and they will get the soul they spent back. If both of those deaths were to a reaper, they would actually come out with 3 souls... it doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. Nothing to confirm that's what happened as yet, but absolutely in the realm of possibility.
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From what I recall in the game using circle means you can’t get any souls that night. They would only come from reap. I may be wrong or maybe it was changed for the forum version like the Ach was.
 
Xanjori said:
Kinda gotta agree that I dislike Claw's post asking why someone was defending Foxxi. I feel its pretty common that if being active in this game you will respond to questions, including highlighting information from another player. It feels like a super reach to make a big deal of it (atm at least.)
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Its not the defending for her it was he was just outright talking for her and i didnt understand why as foxxi is capable
 
Claws said:
Its not the defending for her it was he was just outright talking for her and i didnt understand why as foxxi is capable
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If I had an issue with someone helping to point out something I'd previously said, don't you think by your own logic that I would speak up and say so?
 
Claws said:
Its not the defending for her it was he was just outright talking for her and i didnt understand why as foxxi is capable
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Claws said:
Its not the defending for her it was he was just outright talking for her and i didnt understand why as foxxi is capable
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Yeah you’re being a bit weird.

A question was asked towards her but I was being helpful by providing the person what she was referring to. Doesn’t matter who answers first as long as the question is answered.
 
Xanjori said:
Kinda gotta agree that I dislike Claw's post asking why someone was defending Foxxi. I feel its pretty common that if being active in this game you will respond to questions, including highlighting information from another player. It feels like a super reach to make a big deal of it (atm at least.)
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agreed.
 
I had been thinking the most likely cause of two deaths was the reaper, but now that I understand it doesn't work the way I thought, eh. Maybe the cult actually didn't try to recruit immediately, and chose to kill N1. I could see Mazer trying to get a feel for who a good target would be potentially.
 
It also would mean a kill had to have been prevented somewhere because I don't think the cult can choose to only kill one person.
 
FoxxiMcLeod said:
It also would mean a kill had to have been prevented somewhere because I don't think the cult can choose to only kill one person.
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Correct. Cult must kill 2 people whenever they use it. Technically it could have been a reaper with circle but that would require Lora and Mazer targeting the same person. Which is what I also find unlikely.
 
How would a redirect work in the case of having two targets chosen initially? If Mazer tried to kill two other players, and someone redirected him to Lora, would it redirect both of the kills to Lora? Or just one? What happens to the other kill, and how would it be decided which is redirected?
 
FoxxiMcLeod said:
How would a redirect work in the case of having two targets chosen initially? If Mazer tried to kill two other players, and someone redirected him to Lora, would it redirect both of the kills to Lora? Or just one? What happens to the other kill, and how would it be decided which is redirected?
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If I remember correctly only 1 kill gets redirected. In game it would go based on number closest to 1 as the redirect target. Looking online didn’t really help in that matter sadly. So it could be both kills redirected or just 1. I do know for a fact that if for example 2 court wizards bus drive the same person the 1st one via player list order has theirs go off first.
 
Listo95 said:
If I remember correctly only 1 kill gets redirected. In game it would go based on number closest to 1 as the redirect target. Looking online didn’t really help in that matter sadly. So it could be both kills redirected or just 1. I do know for a fact that if for example 2 court wizards bus drive the same person the 1st one via player list order has theirs go off first.
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So then the second kill would have to have been blocked somehow. Which wouldn't be impossible, depending on target. Could have also been on a target that was immune to death for whatever reason.
 
I'm cautiously reconsidering Listo. I trust badger and Matthieu. I don't think jarrod is the way to go today. I have a slight town lean on Val and MTR. I am leaning Morri as a good king. I'm open to anyone else
 
I don't like that Diva popped in to leave one message saying not to pick her, but didn't offer any thoughts outside that. Claws is acting sus as fuck, but that's pretty damn normal for him honestly. Psycho's gimmick is rubbing me wrong, but he'll probably become more clear in the coming days. Kareemah's posts have felt like she is trying to force herself to participate, and isn't sure how - but that could easily be just because she is new and genuinely isn't sure how to interact yet.
 
The conspiracy theorist in me has an idea on how we have 2 kills but I also have no reason to believe it is likely. Like I’d put this theory way below the reaper possibility.
 
Vote: Claws

"This or Listo, I think. Foxxi has hinted at leaving Jarrod be, and I don't feel great about chopping Diva due to recent games and the fact she's actually participating right now.

I'm open to other options, but nothing else really stands out as not right to me."
 
Vote Count:

4 - Xanjori (CWE #317, Val #331, Kareemah #462, Jarrod #465)
3 - DivaSmurf (FutureHold #382, Badger #383, Foxxi #390)
3 - Jarrod (Claws #385, LDG #401, Matthieu #413)
2 - Claws (DivaSmurf #408, Psycho #457)

With 17 players alive, majority for nomination is 9 votes on a single player.

A bit under 5 hours remaining in nomination phase.
 
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Blind Ninja said:
@FoxxiMcLeod Another option, someone could have targeted the hunter had they used bear companion, would act like a body guard.
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It's possible I suppose - but the bear only kills if the hunter is targeted for a kill, and Lora as the sellsword didn't have any way to kill. So the only death that could have been due to that would have been Mazer, which would mean Mazer tried to kill Lora and someone who is a hunter (it's worth remembering that roles are not unique, there *could* be multiples)
 
And if Mazer died to targeting a hunter, then we're missing a neutral kill attempt I think? Unless we have a sorc that just didn't use a charge to attack. Really there's too many possibilities still right now to be able to make any sense of what happened for sure.
 
I don’t see what the real case is against Xanjori. Hasn’t pinged me in any bad way so far whereas Claws has a bit. Would rather see Claws on trial so temporarily giving Diva a reprieve.

Unvote: Unvote

Vote: Vote Claws
 
FoxxiMcLeod said:
It's possible I suppose - but the bear only kills if the hunter is targeted for a kill, and Lora as the sellsword didn't have any way to kill. So the only death that could have been due to that would have been Mazer, which would mean Mazer tried to kill Lora and someone who is a hunter (it's worth remembering that roles are not unique, there *could* be multiples)
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Hunter is Unique.
 
Well I was about to say I would follow your lead badger - but I just realized in that last vote count that I am already voting for claws? There are roles out there potentially that can force people's votes - seems someone has chosen to force me onto claws already, so nvm lol
 
Im not quite understanding why im getting votes no1 has elborated other then hes weird like fuck off i am your all weird with no explantions
 
A real reason guess i should just play it off like every1 else on dont vote me im bd your making a mistake ect ect
 
I'm gonna be honest, I haven't hated Grae's posts, but I have trouble buying his breadcrumb at face value considering his record.

I'm not a big fan of Xanjori's wagon either more for the nature of how it came about. Xan seems fine so far, but it feels kind of like a throwaway wagon that some people are hitching their cart to. If Jarrod, Claws, or Diva end up being a cult member, we could potentially find one or two(?) of them in those voting there.

I'm torn between CWE having a bit more vote gusto than usual as scum, but feeling less purposeful than usual as town.
 
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