Mafia 8: The Palate Cleanser

[MTR]

Madame Listo called upon da spirit of da Crackle one last night. Da spirit say da dead be very sus of Mazer, Satsu, Tildey, and me. Madame Listo believes da Xan one be suspect. Da CWE spirit also be callin all o town dumb.

Vote: Xanjori

I am not surprised CWE is calling us dumb

 

[VoidKitten]

I'm so sorry Badger :(

 

[Listo95]

Is dat really da question you be askin?

 

[MTR]

For the record I would not have switched to Badger yesterday. I was pretty sure he was town.

 

[VoidKitten]

Did you random thing him vk or did he eat the cookie?

Cookie vendor cookies don't actually do anything.

 

[VoidKitten]

Xanjori, Mazer, and Tildey are ones I am curious to look at today.

 

[Xanjori]

New info!

Although maybe its obvious now. Rock was killed by an SK

 

[VoidKitten]

New info!

Although maybe its obvious now. Rock was killed by an SK

How did you get two different types of results?

 

[Xanjori]

Starting to think Mazer, Satsu, Tildey, MTR should win game

 

[Xanjori]

How did you get two different types of results?

Because Ive got two different abilities

 

[MTR]

New info!

Although maybe its obvious now. Rock was killed by an SK

So does the SK have ways to get around stuff since I had done a rolestop on rock night one?

 

[Xanjori]

So does the SK have ways to get around stuff since I had done a rolestop on rock night one?

That much I dont know, I just know that a role named "SK" killed him

 

[VoidKitten]

Because Ive got two different abilities

That is interesting because you'd seemingly be the only one with multiple abilities per night.

 

[Xanjori]

That is interesting because you'd seemingly be the only one with multiple abilities per night.

I can only use one per night, thats why its taken two nights to get the Rock stuff

 

[VoidKitten]

And by interesting, I mean.

Vote: Xanjori

 

[Xanjori]

So does the SK have ways to get around stuff since I had done a rolestop on rock night one?

Who did you role stop last night btw?

 

[Xanjori]

And by interesting, I mean.

Vote: Xanjori

Is the SK getting upset Ive just outed him?

 

[VoidKitten]

To make it clear, I am not voting him off that. His role actually could have two abilities.

 

[VoidKitten]

Is the SK getting upset Ive just outed him?

If I were a SK, you wouldn't have outed me so stop trying to take credit

 

[Xanjori]

If I were a SK, you wouldn't have outed me so stop trying to take credit

Lol thats a slip, he just admitted to being SK

Vote: VK

 

[VoidKitten]

Lol thats a slip, he just admitted to being SK

Vote: VK

Man you are reaching so hard, lmao.

 

[Xanjori]

stop trying to take credit

What am I getting credit for exactly?

 

[Satsu]

He cant be he was jailed by badger n1 right?

 

[MTR]

Who did you role stop last night btw?

Mazer.

 

[Xanjori]

Because the real question is, why arent you surprised we've got a confirmed SK?

Why arent you examining people like Satsu and Tildey who have the least confirmable claims?

 

[Satsu]

Wait val got rolecop result on him in jail?

 

[VoidKitten]

Wait val got rolecop result on him in jail?

Its doctor and roleblock in one. Not rolestop.

 

[Xanjori]

Wait val got rolecop result on him in jail?

Yeah that cant be true

 

[VoidKitten]

Because the real question is, why arent you surprised we've got a confirmed SK?

Why arent you examining people like Satsu and Tildey who have the least confirmable claims?

How is your claim confirmable?

 

[VoidKitten]

Xanjori is so scummy pretending he doesn't know how mafia actions work

Hoooooooly shit :D

 

[Xanjori]

Xanjori is so scummy pretending he doesn't know how mafia actions work

Hoooooooly shit :D

This is a lie and you know it. Jailor ALWAYS stops actions from targeting the victim and thats just basic mafia

 

[Xanjori]

How is your claim confirmable?

Look at the last page, Matt also just stated there is a 3P who is seperate from mafia.

Look at who died at night.

Literally everything matches what I just told you

 

[VoidKitten]

This is a lie and you know it. Jailor ALWAYS stops actions from targeting the victim and thats just basic mafia

Do you like being wrong?

Jailkeeper

wiki.mafiascum.net

 

[Xanjori]

Do you like being wrong?

http://https:\/wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

I have never played a game in which actions go through on a jailed target. Even ToS works that way

 

[VoidKitten]

I have never played a game in which actions go through on a jailed target. Even ToS works that way

ToS and ToL do act that way.

Not normal mafia.

 

[VoidKitten]

Look at the last page, Matt also just stated there is a 3P who is seperate from mafia.

Look at who died at night.

Literally everything matches what I just told you

Yes, but you are literally regurgitating information that has already been mentioned in the thread before.

 

[Xanjori]

An Alien is a similar role (which is also Normal), blocking its target and protecting its target from actions (not just kills). This variant has rarely been called "Jailkeeper" in the past, but nowadays has a different name.

 

[VoidKitten]

You didn't say anything confirmable to your role.

 

[Xanjori]

Yes, but you are literally regurgitating information that has already been mentioned in the thread before.

Matt posted before me, but I posted my info as soon as I got here. His info just confirms mine to be true.

 

[VoidKitten]

Matt posted before me, but I posted my info as soon as I got here. His info just confirms mine to be true.

Right. I get that.

How does it prove you are town?

 

[Xanjori]

Right. I get that.

How does it prove you are town?

It doesnt. But it proves you're an SK because you literally already knew one was in the game, youve not changed tact or batted an eye-lid at one being confirmed

 

[VoidKitten]

It doesnt. But it proves you're an SK because you literally already knew one was in the game, youve not changed tact or batted an eye-lid at one being confirmed

Val literally called me a Schizo SK on D2 that was edited to just Schizo.

I have consistently said the makeup is 3 scum and 1 3p or 4 scum.

Matthieu said it is at least 1 3p. So unless you think this game started with a duo of SK and 2 scum only, then I am not a SK

 

[Satsu]

Why arent you examining people like Satsu and Tildey who have the least confirmable claims?

I have a super confirmable claim unless you think there is a mafia role called vanilla town. Like there was a town role called serial killer like crackle said

 

[VoidKitten]

I have a super confirmable claim unless you think there is a mafia role called vanilla town. Like there was a town role called serial killer like crackle said

I kinda wanna believe this tbh.

 

[VoidKitten]

Matthieu, Listo, and Val are in my "do not touch" pile.

 

[Xanjori]

I have a super confirmable claim unless you think there is a mafia role called vanilla town. Like there was a town role called serial killer like crackle said

Has Val role copped you and confirmed this?

 

[Xanjori]

Matthieu, Listo, and Val are in my "do not touch" pile.

Well that much we agree on.

 

[Xanjori]

Although Psychic SK just reminds me of being Thanos, so you know, maybe not Listo lol

 

[VoidKitten]

Although Psychic SK just reminds me of being Thanos, so you know, maybe not Listo lol

I wouldn't even be mad if Madame Listo turned out to be Thanos.

 

[VoidKitten]

Mazer....Mazer I have some big problems with currently.

 

[Xanjori]

Mazer....Mazer I have some big problems with currently.

Why Mazer?

 

[VoidKitten]

Why Mazer?

His role. I need to ISO him to be sure, but I am pretty sure he talked about "town roles not necessarily being town" and that we shouldn't expect them to be as we'd think. The yesterday when discussing his role he acted like "why would you think cookie vendor is a scum role?" and then started talking about which roles were more likely town vs scum.

But maybe that was someone else early on. I have to look.

 

[VoidKitten]

Also, lets be real. The scum team giving out COOKIES instead of fruit likee they normally are?

I like that in my headcanon even more.

 

[VoidKitten]

Wait duh. Let's look back at D1. Didn't we try to run up Claws and it failed right at the end because of his claim?

Who wasn't on the train and who jumped off quickly?

 

[Xanjori]

Little less than an hour remains in day one

**Matthieu ( 1 )**- Badger (9)
**Void ( 3 )**- Claws (140), Crackle (236), Val (535)
**Claws ( 6 )**- Xanjori (245), Void (258), Matthieu (270), Mazer (345), MTR (455), BN (610)
**BN ( 3 )** - CWE (289), Tildey (296), Rock (412)
**Rock ( 2)** - Listo (299), Satsu (336),

Not Voting:

Ended up as

Matthieu ( 1 )- Badger (9)
Void ( 2 )- Crackle (236), Val (535)
Claws ( 3 )- Xanjori (245), Mazer (345), MTR (455),
BN ( 2 )- CWE (289), Tildey (296
)Rock ( 2)- Listo (299), Satsu (336),
Sleep ( 1 )- Matthieu (645)
Satsu ( 4 )- Rock (658), Void (659), Claws (664), BN (669)

 

[Xanjori]

Everyone on Claws wagon originally still alive lol

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 1 Count right before Claws cat gif to claim:

**Matthieu ( 1 )**- Badger (9)
**Void ( 3 )**- Claws (140), Crackle (236), Val (535)
**Claws ( 6 )**- Xanjori (245), Void (258), Matthieu (270), Mazer (345), MTR (455), BN (610)
**BN ( 3 )** - CWE (289), Tildey (296), Rock (412)
**Rock ( 2)** - Listo (299), Satsu (336),

Not Voting:

 

[VoidKitten]

I color coded mine!!!

 

[Xanjori]

I color coded mine!!!

LAMIST post

 

[VoidKitten]

So the question is

Do we think his team voted on him or stayed off of him hoping for a no yeet?

 

[VoidKitten]

LAMIST post

I have been called worse.

 

[Xanjori]

Hmm, Satsu may be spewed not wolf off that VC

 

[VoidKitten]

Hmm, Satsu may be spewed not wolf off that VC

Why? Actually asking because I am missing it

 

[Xanjori]

Why? Actually asking because I am missing it

Cos Claws claims doctor and then jumps on Satsu? I was asleep so I dunno how many of you were awake, but it seems unlikely he'd put a partner at risk?

 

[VoidKitten]

Cos Claws claims doctor and then jumps on Satsu? I was asleep so I dunno how many of you were awake, but it seems unlikely he'd put a partner at risk?

Rock and I jumped off first and then Claws did.

Claws claimed with 51 minutes left in the day (technically before with a Dre gif I missed.

Rock voted Satsu (to 1) with 17 minutes left and Claws voted 4 minutes after that. So he voted with 13 minutes to secure 5 other votes on top of his :D

 

[Listo95]

Da spirits tell Madame Listo it still be Xan.

 

[VoidKitten]

I am curious of Claws hard defense of Tildey too.

 

[VoidKitten]

Da spirits tell Madame Listo it still be Xan.

I believe in Madame Listo.

 

[VoidKitten]

Xan, Mazer, Tildey, and Satsu.

That is where the last three are I believe.

 

[Xanjori]

Xan, Mazer, Tildey, and Satsu.

That is where the last three are I believe.

Why are you so confidently believing Listo?

 

[Mazer]

Madame Listo called upon da spirit of da Crackle one last night. Da spirit say da dead be very sus of Mazer, Satsu, Tildey, and me. Madame Listo believes da Xan one be suspect. Da CWE spirit also be callin all o town dumb.

Vote: Xanjori

....@cwe you are just the worst on these.

 

[VoidKitten]

Why are you so confidently believing Listo?

Meta read. I do not see Listo gimmicking as scum. I have been scum with him. I have been scum against him. He freezes.

Unless Listo did a dramatic shift in how he plays Mafia, I am not worried about him.

 

[Mazer]

I think someboooddy did a thing to me last night.

And we know Badger is dead.

 

[Mazer]

Xan, Mazer, Tildey, and Satsu.

That is where the last three are I believe.

Well, I think you've got two.

Maybe we can actually finish one off today....if that's acceptable strategy.....

 

[Mazer]

I'm so sorry Badger :(

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Are you though?

 

[Mazer]

Vote: xan

Wonder how claws died.

 

[VoidKitten]

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Are you though?

I am. I swapped between him and Claws 3 times on my read list swapping between neutral and scum.

His flip actually hurt me a bit. Shoulda gone with my initial reads

 

[Mazer]

I am. I swapped between him and Claws 3 times on my read list swapping between neutral and scum.

His flip actually hurt me a bit. Shoulda gone with my initial reads

And then there was the quick jump on after wagons for tildey and xan stalling.

Because Badger was "not here" and "flitting in and out". That shouldn't be enough for a no questions asked wave.



So......that lynch frustrated me.

 

[Mazer]

I am. I swapped between him and Claws 3 times on my read list swapping between neutral and scum.

His flip actually hurt me a bit. Shoulda gone with my initial reads

If this man backs away from xan AND tildey again ......let's all be safe out there.

 

[VoidKitten]

If this man backs away from xan AND tildey again ......let's all be safe out there.

I will yeet either one of them into the sun at a moments notice.

 

[Mazer]

What's your theory on claws being nightkilled and no additional death?

 

[VoidKitten]

What's your theory on claws being nightkilled and no additional death?

I wonder if someone tried to kill you since you were rolestopped.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Xanjori is the medical examiner.

 

[VoidKitten]

Xanjori is the medical examiner.

At least we know that his roleclaim is legit.

 

[Mazer]

Mazer.

Which is why I didn't get the cookie I sent myself I guess. I'm not as convinced as VK they do nothing.

 

[VoidKitten]

Which is why I didn't get the cookie I sent myself I guess. I'm not as convinced as VK they do nothing.

That is interesting that you were even allowed to self target that. Though I guess no harm.

The cookies I really doubt do anything. It would be stated unless this game was bastardized, which we have seen no real proof of.

 

[MTR]

Which is why I didn't get the cookie I sent myself I guess. I'm not as convinced as VK they do nothing.

Interesting that you were able to self target. I am also on the fence on whether or not they do anything

 

[Mazer]

His role. I need to ISO him to be sure, but I am pretty sure he talked about "town roles not necessarily being town" and that we shouldn't expect them to be as we'd think. The yesterday when discussing his role he acted like "why would you think cookie vendor is a scum role?" and then started talking about which roles were more likely town vs scum.

But maybe that was someone else early on. I have to look.

I can help here. I made that point I believe right after the role cop claim. In flagbearer, cwe was ready to use a role cop to false claim. As I mentioned, because on Rajah we condition ourselves to look at role identification as an "end", I wanted to point out to be careful not to start "oh he has a town role", he must be good.

My point with Badger et al was to consider how it would actually help a scum team.

Fruit wouldn't. Although admittedly, i am now curious about whether Foxxi hid something.

 

[Mazer]

Interesting that you were able to self target. I am also on the fence on whether or not they do anything

I asked Foxxi if I could, and she said it was ok. So gave it a shot.

 

[Mazer]

That is interesting that you were even allowed to self target that. Though I guess no harm.

The cookies I really doubt do anything. It would be stated unless this game was bastardized, which we have seen no real proof of.

That would be the main guess, my only clue otherwise is foxxi reminding claws he had a cookie.

 

[VoidKitten]

That would be the main guess, my only clue otherwise is foxxi reminding claws he had a cookie.

With Claws flipping scum, that could just be posturing.

It also actually makes you look better in hindsight, unless it was scum theater, but your reaction to Claws felt genuine.

 

[Mazer]

Mazer....Mazer I have some big problems with currently.

Sometimes I feel like you want the big moment vs. taking the w.

Although I admit this is now causing me some level of doubt. Including the way Xan and claws tried to fish yesterday, and now you're coming in ho. But my top 2 are not waivering on Xan and Tildey. I would hope that Blind Ninja would say something if there's suss things in the chat.

 

[Mazer]

Coming in hot. lol.

Coming in ho would have been more entertaining.



But apparently you were walking back as I typed....so.....

 

[VoidKitten]

Coming in hot. lol.

Coming in ho would have been more entertaining.



But apparently you were walking back as I typed....so.....

I always walk back when I actually think of something.

If you haven't noticed, I play mafia on snap gut reads and how posts make me feel.

Excellent gif choice.

 

[Mazer]

I think there was some rationale, albeit one I do not like, to the end of the day votes yesterday. And I feel very good about Listo.


I'm curious on who moved quickly after void brought up Badger, and whether there's any intersection with suss d1 votes.

 

[VoidKitten]

I think there was some rationale, albeit one I do not like, to the end of the day votes yesterday. And I feel very good about Listo.


I'm curious on who moved quickly after void brought up Badger, and whether there's any intersection with suss d1 votes.

Xan brought up Badger and Claws agreed if I remember correctly.

 

[VoidKitten]

Can we come together and burn badger hes on all the lists

Actually it was Claws first. Then Xanjori agreed to swap. Xan voted first then Claws swapped over.

 

[Matthieu]

I do think that it's plausible for there to be a lot of investigative roles in a game with no write-ups. Has there ever been a game with a scum aligned medical examiner? It strikes me as inevitably town on the basis that the scum team aren't generally going to want to waste time finding out what a slain town role happened to be as opposed to finding out what a living town player is.

 

[Listo95]

I do think that it's plausible for there to be a lot of investigative roles in a game with no write-ups. Has there ever been a game with a scum aligned medical examiner? It strikes me as inevitably town on the basis that the scum team aren't generally going to want to waste time finding out what a slain town role happened to be as opposed to finding out what a living town player is.

Da spirits be sayin every role in da game can be eitha faction. Da VT be a basic toon if dey evil.

 

[VoidKitten]

I do think that it's plausible for there to be a lot of investigative roles in a game with no write-ups. Has there ever been a game with a scum aligned medical examiner? It strikes me as inevitably town on the basis that the scum team aren't generally going to want to waste time finding out what a slain town role happened to be as opposed to finding out what a living town player is.

He is apparently a medical examiner with two actions at night that tells him different things.

Do you have two night actions? Does anyone?